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To: SeekAndFind; mc5cents; Maelstrom; Vide; Texas Songwriter; aruanan
Thanks for some really great posts, makes for a good thread!

Vide's point is the important one on the issue of allegedly "missing links" -- of the many millions of species which could have left fossils, we've discovered only 250,000 according to Ann Coulter = maybe 2.5%.

So, you'd expect "missing links" to be the rule, not exceptions.

But the key idea that everyone seems to miss is that every species is a "transitional form" between whatever went before and what may come after.

Indeed, the very word "species" is so vague, that we can't really say for certain if two similar looking fossils are more-or-less the same species or not.
As proved by many examples (i.e., horses and donkeys, or brown & polar bears), the process of speciation can be gradual and incomplete over millions of years.
Breeding populations get separated by geological forces, then come back together, possibly forming hybrids, etc., etc.

In the case of human beings, we find the remains of about two dozen "species" of pre-humans dating back about 7 million years to a presumed common ancestor with chimpanzees.
How many of these two dozen or so ancient species were actual ancestors, and how many merely distant uncles & aunts?
Well the fossil record suggested that Neanderthals were not directly related, but the DNAs say maybe there was a little hanky-panky going on in back of old cave.
So much is unknown, even unknowable.

But none of that effects the facts (=confirmed observations) of evolution: A) descent with modifications and B) natural selection.
Nor does it challenge the confirmed theory of evolution: descent from common ancestors.
Nor does it effect current work on unconfirmed hypotheses such as abiogenesis.

As for the rantings of atheists, why should those effect what we understand?

Of course, it's that word "kind" which drives our Creationist FRiends nuts, but it seems to me the answer should be quite simple: Yes or no, is God Infinite?
Could not an Infinite God have an infinite number of "kinds"?
Indeed, in the eyes of an Infinite God, could not each & every individual be its own "kind"?
If God is the giver of life itself, then how can some theory of "descent with modifications" in any way restrict God's creative power?

Finally, if God intended to keep his creative processes secret from us, do you not suppose He would have hidden them more effectively?
Surely you wouldn't suggest that God provides us with evidence confirming Evolution just to trick us?

Anyway, seems to me that last sentence from Genesis quoted above, and others like it, is the very important point:


21 posted on 09/17/2011 1:42:08 PM PDT by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective....)
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To: BroJoeK
But the key idea that everyone seems to miss is that every species is a "transitional form" between whatever went before and what may come after.

Actually what is missed is Genesis 1:2 wherein everything living up to that point was destroyed. There was nothing left to transition. Jeremiah 4:22-27; IIPeter 3:5-6

22 posted on 09/17/2011 1:47:32 PM PDT by Just mythoughts (Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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To: BroJoeK
I think you almost made the point.....

"In the beginning, God........"

25 posted on 09/17/2011 5:01:30 PM PDT by Texas Songwriter (I ou)
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To: BroJoeK
The land produced vegetation: plants bearing seed according to their kinds and trees bearing fruit with seed in it according to their kinds.

Actually, this should has been proved false. Based on dna being discovered. It should be corrected to read. God created vegetation.....

And should be placed just before God created the great creatures...

In other words, soft ware was introduced into the hardware that then existed. The software was in the form of the dna that created all living things. What astounds me is that all living things are made from a dna begining and made in the image of whatever created it.

89 posted on 09/27/2011 10:00:59 PM PDT by duckln
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