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Please note the brownish marks on the two right-hand columns of the front page. This is the first solid evidence we have seen that at least as long as 70 years ago people drank coffee while they scanned their newspapers for uploading to the internet.

10 A. M. Broadcast – 2-3
World War Debt Already Doubled – 3
The International Situation – 3
Red Forces Retire – 4-5
Ruins in Riga: Produced by German Bombardment (photo) – 5
New ‘Dunkerque’ is Seen at Odessa – 5-7
Scenes in Smolensk after Its Capture by Germans in Hardest-Fought Battle of the War (photos) – 6-7
Lakes that Surround Odessa Armor City against Easy Conquest by Nazi Legions – 8
Serious View Taken in London of German Drive into Ukraine – 8
British Bomb a Vast Area; Raiders Defy Bad Weather – 9
Nazis Put ‘Viktoria’ Stamp on Occupied Lands’ Mail – 9
Raids Put Reich ‘In Front Lines’ – 10
Fortress Bombers Said to Spread Unrest in Reich and Occupied Areas – 10
New Course Seen for Democracies (by John H. Crider) – 11
Axis Films Fought by Britain and U.S. – 11
Italians Flounder in Mud of Ukraine – 11
Petain’s Appeal Held Misjudged (by G.H. Archambault) – 12
Nazis Find Petain in ‘Positive’ Stand – 12
Canadians Demand Vichy Envoy’s Ouster – 12
Vichy ‘Chooses Sides’ (by Hanson W. Baldwin) – 14
Hull Meets British on Far East Threat – 14
The Texts of the Day’s Communiques on the War – 15-16
German Pins Hope on Farm Technique – 16
U.S.-Build Airplanes on Vast Patrol Jobs – 16

4 posted on 08/14/2011 4:59:44 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

http://www.onwar.com/chrono/1941/aug41/f14aug41.htm

Soviet evacuate Black Sea naval base

Thursday, August 14, 1941 www.onwar.com

On the Eastern Front... The Soviets begin to evacuate their Black Sea naval base at Nikolayev. Eight destroyers of the Black Sea fleet cover the operation (lasting through August 17th). Of the ships under construction in the port, 13 are far enough advanced to be towed away but one battleship and 10 other vessels on the stocks are blown up.


5 posted on 08/14/2011 5:07:17 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

been watching an intersting four part series on NHK TV about why japan went to war. very intersting, the show cites these reasons:

-the army in china was not easily controllable by the weak civilian government, as the army continued to advance, the US cut off oil

-country had only 2 years oil on hand and so had only two options: get a new source of oil in SE Asia, or pull out of China and get US to end embargo

-the Army was culturally incapable of pulling out becasue they had lost over 200,000 men by then in china. this “debt to the dead” became a real issue.

-the navy in private, and this is documented, was clear that they could at best hold the US off for two years, but would lose in the end. however they would not say this in the cabinet meetings

-around august, and into november, the cabinet wrestled with the option of going to war. at this point a now famous analysis was presented which showed that enough shipping was available to supply Japan from SE Asia in the event of war. since then, the anlaysis has been shown to be totally flawed, but armed with this analysis, the cabinet began to consider that war with the US was maybe an option that could be managed

-eventually the cabinet weighed the choice of world humiliation by pulling out of China vs. going to war with the US. Many of the ministers, and certainly the Navy knew the war plan was probably doomed, but chose a doomed plan with consequences later instead of humiliation in the present. this fatalistic honorable death view permeated the culture and manifested itself in many ways in the war itself.

-at the final hour, the japanese PM reached out to Roosevelt for a face to face meeting, and tried to signal him that if in the meeting if he could get concessions on the embargo he would go to the Emperor and get the Emperor to intervene and control the Army, but the US missed the signals of this subtle strategy and refused the meeting unless the Army first would agree to withdraw.

-the show has a lot of other intersting stuff about how the japanese diplomatic corp totally incompetent and misread and screwed up international relations all thru the 1930’s ending with a disastrous and much debated alliance with Hitler.


8 posted on 08/14/2011 5:24:14 AM PDT by beebuster2000
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

You know.... I don’t know how many people read your posts but they are very much appreciated.

Thank you.

Can’t believe you do this 7 days a week.

Just terrific.

I’m in Gilroy and maybe we could get a cup of coffee sometime down the street from your office or on campus.

Thnx again.


14 posted on 08/14/2011 8:29:21 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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