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Does Loving Linux Make Us Dislike Windows?
Datamation ^ | 8 August 2011 | Matt Hart

Posted on 08/11/2011 5:48:55 AM PDT by ShadowAce

Years ago, I was a reasonably content Windows desktop user. Then something remarkable took place that changed everything: I began stumbling upon various open source projects that I found to be nothing short of amazing.

The first open source application I happened upon was a project called "Firebird." Destined to become what we today refer to as the Firefox Web browser, Firebird offered me a whole new way to look at software.

Even back in the early days of the Firebird/Firefox browser, I knew it was going to take off like crazy as development began to pickup. As time went on, I found myself using open source software over that of the freeware/shareware alternatives. Software cost was certainly part of the reasoning for my change in computing habit, but so was the speed of application development.

Today I'm a full-time desktop Linux enthusiast, who is familiar with dozens of popular distributions. I'd consider myself very comfortable with Linux on the desktop. What's interesting though, is the change in how I view Windows.

These days, I avoid Windows as much as possible since I feel much more limited with it. Perhaps this is what Windows users trying Linux feel when stepping outside of their regular computing routine?

Whatever the issue happens to be for others, I've found myself disliking any non-Linux experience on the desktop. The reasons for my view of Windows are bountiful. However I can't say that everyone reading this is going to agree with them.

Regardless, this is simply a deeper look into what makes me embrace Linux and avoid Windows whenever I can...even though I own a Windows 7 PC.

Where's the software?

Based on my own experiences with Windows 7, the software included is laughable. There is no default office suite, the productivity software is missing out of the box and most of the time the driver support is painful to behold.

Just to make the Windows 7 desktop usable in my office, I must hunt down software solutions that mirror my Linux desktop experience. Though, to be fair, there are some very solid applications available for Windows users. Claiming otherwise would be disingenuous.

However, finding these software titles can be tedious. Worse, I find myself using search engines and shareware websites to fill in software gaps for application discovery. Considering that Linux software is available from Linux software repositories, along with the plethora of apps already installed, Linux has software availability won hands down in contrast to Windows.

I've also found that many of the applications I've come to love on the Linux desktop aren't always available on the Windows desktop. For instance, one example occurs to me from the video editing space. I could go with VirtualDub for Windows, however I'd rather stick with OpenShot instead.

There are other Linux software titles I've run into this with, but this is one example that is something I came across recently. We are victims of what we consider familiar, I suppose. However this is hardly true only for users of proprietary desktop operating systems. It seems that Linux enthusiasts can also suffer from platform shock when going back to a non-Linux experience.

Dollars and "sense"

One thing I find most annoying about Windows is how I must spend extra money every time I update the operating system. I'm not saying this happens with each Windows release cycle, rather with every two of them.

The problem is that even if I stick to open source/freeware applications on the Windows desktop, Windows 7 seems to "dislike" peripherals aged more than 3-4 years old. It amazes me that I could take brand named devices, connect them to a Windows 7, only to watch as the installer coughed up excuses instead of getting the devices up and running. Even peripherals that worked out of the box in Windows XP failed miserably with Windows 7, due to drivers.

To be fair, this is not the fault of the operating system so much as the idiocy that is today's peripherals marketplace. Apparently many peripheral manufacturers stop producing new drivers after a device hits a certain age.

Seems these short-sighted companies believe there is no money in ensuring a decent experience unless you own the latest and greatest peripherals. In contrast to that experience, I've found that modern desktop Linux distributions support peripherals both new and old alike. Thanks to the community backbone making sure devices of all ages receive driver support, every peripheral in my home office works out of the box with Linux.

The software differences and the maddening driver shortcomings have indeed made using Windows a "non-starter" for me personally. And after inquiring with others who use Linux on the desktop, I was shocked to hear I was not alone.

The reasons for disliking Windows for these individuals was less about software politics and more about the desktop experience itself. Despite the Linux desktop often presenting similar challenges for newcomers, at least those challenges can be overcome without a shopping trip for new peripherals. At worst, it's a matter of a small learning curve or some minor troubleshooting.

Even when things work they fail

During several discussions with Linux users, the topic of store-bought software and peripheral driver CDs came up. If you've ever run a printer driver installation CD, you know exactly what I'm about to say. Installing a Windows driver using these discs is an exercise in patience and sanity.

Not only are you left to play "dodge ball" with software installations that you never asked for, the installation process itself takes entirely too long. By the time the driver CD is finished, I might as well have carved pertinent details of the document into a stone tablet.

Then we have Windows networking configuration. You've got to be kidding me, Microsoft. While I believe that networking two Windows 7 PCs is reasonably easy thanks to the provided tools, cross-platform networking with Windows 7 requires more patience than I have on tap during any given day.

Sure, I've done it successfully. However, it's easier to cross-platform a network with OS X to Linux, than with Windows 7. Even Windows XP made this easier, which is pretty sad considering the age of the OS release.

Next up on my complaint list is software management in Windows. Earlier I discussed my grief with software discovery, now it's time to roll my eyes at how Windows handles software removal.

On a Linux system, just run the proper commands from a shell. If you need a GUI, you have solutions such as Synaptic, among a few others. Yet when I use Windows 7, I must remove software one-application-at-a-time. To the very best of my knowledge, there is no method to safely remove more than one application at a time.

To me, this is time wasted and if I was more daring, I'd bill Microsoft for each moment I lost during the experience. The entire experience is dated and in dire need of an upgrade.

Windows Me and Windows Vista

Anyone who has paid attention in recent years will admit that the two worst releases of Windows have to be Windows Me and Windows Vista. The reasons varied between the two releases; however, both shared their need for deeper development and bug removal.

The point here is when each of these Windows releases came out, there was no current Windows alternative available. The only option was to stick with an earlier Windows release or just deal with the flakiness of the newest release.

For Linux enthusiasts, on the other hand, we are fortunate in being able to "distro hop" whenever the urge happens to strike us. Unlike Windows, there are plenty of release options out there to choose from.

The best part is that most distributions offer fairly substantial differences with regard to their desktop experience. From varied desktop environments out of the box, down to the applications installed by default. Even the control options made available tend to flow in different directions from distro to distro.

Repairing what's broken

I would be doing everyone here a disservice if I claimed that the popular Linux distributions available all do everything 100% correctly out of the box. Obviously this isn't the case. However, fixing something that's amiss on the Linux desktop comes with a greater chance of success than with the Windows desktop.

The same issues that might plague a Linux newbie are a sign of control to the more advanced Linux enthusiast. Whether it be a tweak here or a "config file" edit there, most issues are easily fixed once the problem is diagnosed.

The same isn't always the case with the Windows desktop. When something like a wireless dongle isn't working, there is little recourse available other than to try another driver. With Linux, you'll often find the solution is to tweak the driver that was installed to gain the desired result. While the circumstances on both platforms can be considered a pain, the latter isn't waiting on the manufacturer to "correct" whatever the problem is.

Distaste for Windows vs Disliking Windows

By now, many of you might believe I happen to dislike Windows and all things Microsoft. The truth couldn't be further off.

I do have a strong distaste for Windows 7. It's a buffed up version of XP in my opinion, with some minor improvements sprinkled along the way to make it feel like a new operating system. Unlike Windows XP, however, Win7 has offered nothing of value to the end-user in my opinion.

This view, not a dislike for Microsoft, is why I avoid newer Windows products like the plague. Fact is, Windows XP has a much larger spectrum of peripheral support than Windows 7. Think I'm wrong? Do some testing with older peripherals and you'll be amazed. Running a PC shouldn't require maintaining an active balance on one's credit card.

My reason for sharing this article is to show what it's like to read "Linux reviews" written by proprietary OS shills. The difference with this report, however, is that I share my own honest experiences with both desktops as used on a daily basis.

Unlike many of the Windows-using "Linux reviewers," Windows 7 is my secondary desktop here in my home office. While I avoid using it whenever possible, I do run it out of necessity due to the nature of my work. I need it to compare how things work in contrast to Linux, what advancements have been achieved on the platform, and so on. I do not use it with any of my software, documents or anything that takes place in my daily life. It's used for testing and research only.

The title of this article begs the question of whether using Linux makes end-users such as myself "dislike" Windows. The answer for myself is, no, it doesn't make me dislike Windows at all. Hating an operating system is silly.

I will say, however, that Linux has made me rethink how I spend my money and how I spend my time. Linux is most definitely not a magic bullet for all applications nor is it a match for all computer users. Many of you may be better off with Windows.

But for those who are willing to walk on the wild side, Linux is a tool that has the potential to reshape how you use a computer overnight. However, your own mileage during such an experience may vary.


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1 posted on 08/11/2011 5:49:01 AM PDT by ShadowAce
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To: rdb3; Calvinist_Dark_Lord; GodGunsandGuts; CyberCowboy777; Salo; Bobsat; JosephW; ...

2 posted on 08/11/2011 5:50:24 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: ShadowAce

I’d love nothing more than to switch to Linux. But I’m trapped here in a windows shop. And the brain drain is so bad these days, that I am completely spent by the time I get home. Help!


3 posted on 08/11/2011 5:56:33 AM PDT by jimjohn
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To: ShadowAce

I stopped reading when he said he prefers virtualdub on windows. Clearly he hasn’t reasearched the commericial/paid apps.


4 posted on 08/11/2011 6:03:11 AM PDT by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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To: ShadowAce

This is a perfect example of someone who thinks they’re competent to write about technology, but ends up parading their ignorance, instead.


5 posted on 08/11/2011 6:03:52 AM PDT by Psycho_Bunny (Public employee unions are the barbarian hordes of our time.)
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To: jimjohn
And the brain drain is so bad these days, that I am completely spent by the time I get home. Help!

I can understand that very well.

I'm in a good situation here--while the official desktop is Windows, I am allowed to use my Linux laptop. My business case for it is that (since I am a Linux admin) I can connect to the servers I'm responsible for a lot easier. It makes my job more productive.

My official work desktop is sitting on my desk, running headless, mouseless, and keyboardless. I remote into it whenever I need to use the one and only Windows app that I can't get running on Linux--Lotus Notes (the only reason I can't get it running on Linux is that I don't have the install disks available).

6 posted on 08/11/2011 6:05:26 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: for-q-clinton
Further down in the article, he states:

Running a PC shouldn't require maintaining an active balance on one's credit card.

So perhaps he is limiting his comparison to the lower end of what everyone can afford, rather than spending $600 on a piece of software.

7 posted on 08/11/2011 6:09:46 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: for-q-clinton
Ok I read a little more now.

Win7 has offered nothing of value to the end-user in my opinion.

Really? I guess he hasn't really used windows 7 beyond listening to other linux users complaints. Application virtualization is pretty cool feature, improved UI, but the biggest feature is the security.

8 posted on 08/11/2011 6:10:19 AM PDT by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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To: ShadowAce
Yet when I use Windows 7, I must remove software one-application-at-a-time.
Ooooooh, the humanity.
I've been around computers since the punch card days. While I'm NO fan of Windows, this article is nothing more than another whining "my dad can kick your dad's butt."
Ah, no it can't.
9 posted on 08/11/2011 6:12:05 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: ShadowAce
Does Loving Linux Make Us Dislike Windows?

I'd say that is a "yes." I use Red Hat Enterprise Linux at work, along with XP for mundane/routine office stuff. (company policy) But serious development is on RHEL. At home it is a combination of Ubuntu on a couple of machines, PCLinuxOS on another, and Debian on one. That's the beauty of Linux - try a distro. Oh, and you can keep/collect cast-off machines that others don't want. Even if they lack the horsepower/resources to run Vista or Win7, most Linux distros are right at home on them. I do use Win7 at home for a couple of things. So I'm not casting stones at Windows without having some familiarity with it.

So, do I dislike windows now? Yes.

I prefer the Linux user interface, though honestly I'm not sure about Ubuntu's unity just yet.

I prefer Linux's ease of finding/installing/trying applications (couple of clicks away). And just a couple of clicks to make them go away if you don't like them.

I prefer Linux's ease of working with devices. Installing a new printer last week and getting Ubuntu to recognize/use it was even easier than getting my son's Mac laptop to do the same. (even with a driver disk from HP for the Mac/printer)

I prefer not having to give up a fair amount of disk space and CPU cycles to an antivirus program to protect a fragile OS and application suite from the wilds of the Internet.

I prefer not having to upgrade or outright replace my computer every time a new version of the OS comes out. (typing this on a 6 year old Dell, that was at best middle of the road for performance when it was new)

I prefer getting updates and upgrades to the OS and applications automatically and in a timely manner.

I prefer the lack of crashes, blue-screens-of-death.

Being a certified computer-weenie, I prefer knowing what's going on inside the OS, rather than relying on some black-box solution.

I prefer the lack of onerous end-user license agreements.

In short, for me Linux works better than windows. That certainly won't be the case for everyone. But since Linux is so easy to try, I don't see why more people don't try it...some will like it. And that competition will drive windows, Linux, and Mac OS/X to be better.

10 posted on 08/11/2011 6:12:48 AM PDT by ThunderSleeps (Stop obama now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: ShadowAce
I run Win XP Pro on 3 boxes on my home network.
Same OS on 2 lap tops.

It works. I don't care why.

I use the computers - They do not use me.
IMO, as limited as it is, most of this guys "problems" are self-created geek problems.

He likes Linux.
Good for him and the penguin.
11 posted on 08/11/2011 6:13:06 AM PDT by Tainan (Cogito, Ergo Conservitus.)
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To: ShadowAce

For what he wants the FREE windows live movie maker is better than virtual dub.

So if that’s the case, he missed that obvious choice. But even his link to the linux competitor says the guy that wrote it made next to nothing and it was a lot of work—more people should be like that (not what I’m saying what the video said). Yes more people should work for free. It’s not exactly a model that links up with capitalism really well. That’s why Linux went so long without a decent video editing program.


12 posted on 08/11/2011 6:13:44 AM PDT by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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To: ShadowAce

the only Linux program I used was Puppy when my laptop crashed (I’ve reformatted it twice so far) and luckily recovered current college files. I really haven’t studied it at all, but was wondering if, since college papers turned in (online classes) must be in Word Doc format, is it possible to still use Linux?


13 posted on 08/11/2011 6:23:50 AM PDT by huldah1776
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To: jimjohn
Even for Windows machines there are a lot of Open Source apps that are written for Linux but ported for Windows.

I found some of those tools indispensable with my last company. I prefer the latest version of Gimp to Photoshop/Illustrator, And the power of ImageMagick for batch image processing is unique. Powerful command line tools like Grep are also ported for Windows. And if you process text data and need RegX find/replace in spreadsheet data, Gnumeric is the only spreadsheet that I am aware of that will do that.

14 posted on 08/11/2011 6:25:18 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: huldah1776

Yes, you can. Every document I use here at work is in Word format—and I open/read/edit them in Linux using either OpenOffice or Libre Office.


15 posted on 08/11/2011 6:28:16 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: ShadowAce
When you are new to Linux, it seems exciting. There is so much to discover, and there are so many new tools you can learn, and that you can play around with by solving whatever problem you’re having at the time, be it a network card that doesn’t work, or a printer that prints only PostScript error messages, and on and on and on.

So I used Linux for many years, developed both used-mode and kernel-mode software for it, ported it to various embedded systems, spend whole days single-stepping through its kernel in a hardware debugger, all Linux all the time.

But then, I got tired of it. At a certain point, you have solved all the problems, and you have seen it all. And you want things to just work. But they won’t. You start having to solve the same problems over and over again, and it gets tedious. And tiresome. And boring.

So I went back to Windows. On Windows, things just work. If they don’t, a quick Google session is usually enough. Even if not, reporting bugs helps. Even to Microsoft. They actually accept bug reports, react to them, and fix them. I wonder how many of those who keep whining and bitching about Windows all the time ever tried reporting their troubles.

Programming on Windows is actually more, not less, interesting than on Unix. There are some old quirks, but a lot of stuff that I used to think was stupid 15 years ago, actually wasn’t so stupid, after all. Just over my head at the time. And a lot of parts of the Unix interface that seemed to brilliantly simple ten years ago, turned out to be awfully oversimplified. And Windows has .NET! Just being able to write for the .NET platform should be reason enough now to return to the Windows platform.

16 posted on 08/11/2011 6:35:08 AM PDT by cartan
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To: Tainan
Good for him and the penguin.

Yup. His second-to-last paragraph pretty much agrees with your post.

17 posted on 08/11/2011 6:36:10 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: ThunderSleeps
I prefer the Linux user interface

I agree. I built my first PC in 1982. Have run all the Microsoft OS's (except ME and Vista, never owned them but worked on them). In 1998 I installed my first Linux OS, it was a UMSDOS version of Slackware. Used Mandrake and Redhat (from 5.0 on).

When Redhat 8.0 came out I discovered XFCE windows manager and fell in love with it's simplicity, efficiency and speed. This machine is running Xubuntu 11.04

18 posted on 08/11/2011 6:40:00 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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19 posted on 08/11/2011 6:41:45 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: ShadowAce

Got a PC question....my PC’s running slow and occasionally freezes even tho I regularly defrag,disk clean,update and scan. I’ve heard lots of ads on doublemyspeed.com....are these online programs really that good? Is there anything i’m not doing to improve the speed/performance? I use Registry Mechanic and Avast to keep things clean. I’m running windows XP home ed. Any ideas? Thanks!


20 posted on 08/11/2011 6:49:24 AM PDT by gimme1ibertee ("Criticism......brings attention to an unhealthy state of things"-Winston Churchill)
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