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Posted on 08/10/2011 10:04:52 AM PDT by Kartographer
One of the main components that you’ll want to have around the house (or apartment) during a SHTF situation is chlorine bleach. Not only can it be used for cleaning water (although boiling is hands down more effective and healthier) it is excellent for keeping things sanitary.
Unfortunately, the average shelf life of liquid bleach (being stored between 50 and 70 degrees Fahrenheit) is around 6 months. After that, bleach will lose 20% of it’s strength at around the year mark and then 20% each year after that. So if you’re not vigilant about keeping it rotated, chances are when you need it for disinfecting water or to keep things clean you’ll be fresh out of bleach and luck.
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Gosh, that is so hard to figure out, what a deep question.
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Thank you for proving my point. ;-)
In other words you’d be happy to be a London looter? Please explain.
Not sure I’d trust a Heinz spokesman for scientific data ;)
One of my books says the number is more like 99%, but I’d have to dig that out again.
Don’t you have a less childish approach to keep someone from standing up to this language degradation, how did something so conservative as emergency preparation start to become known as “SHTF” discussions?
Are you the type of woman that shows this article to her kids so that you can all have a “SHTF” discussion, to your scouting group, your church groups, your mom, your grandmother, the grandmothers at your church?
Why? To what end? What good could possible come of it? It seems to me we’ve both spent far to much time. The only thing more discussion about this between use can do is create more animosity. And speaking for myself I don’t need it.
I do know is that my Preparedness Manual has been downloaded around 10,000 times, so apparently I have been of service to some and that’s good enough for me.
"people with a attitude like your historical are among the first to turn ‘Rat’. They tend to when the chips are down either turn in those prepared to ‘authorities’"Back in reply 155? Wasn't very nice, but it does raise an issue about your fixation about getting "ratted" out to the authorities.
So I put that "rat" fixation in HONEST current historical context to show YOU what it means.
Which side are YOU on, Freeper?
Nice info but I think I’ll stick to vinegar which you can put in water to kill germs, rinse your hands in it to kill bacteria, edible - non toxic - multiple uses and cheaper than bleach.
Not to mention being easier to brew at home, given that it’s basically spoiled wine ;)
Where does one get, “spoiled wine”?
I do not want to be a critic of your legitimate and even perhaps useful labor of love — that manual. I also downloaded it some months ago, fwtw, but did not find it worth my own time at the time I did so. I gave it a very cursory look-see and 86’d it. I would not call that a deep review of it — I’m sure there’s some interesting stuff in it.
My concern in posting on this thread was only to the specific subject it covered — making chlorine bleach at home. I found that to be really “extreme”, as in extremely foolish, prepping.
But then you over-amped in reaction. You zoomed-into paranoia about “rats”. I suggest you work on that reaction, amigo.
Thanks for your opinion and for putting it on the thread.
don’t know about gophers, but I use my dogs poo to keep the moles out of my front yard...they don’t like that smell. Make a hole in an active run and put on gloves and drop a large turd down the hole, but don’t fill the hole in with dirt. Put a rock over it. Do it every 5 feet or so...they move within a week...
You’re welcome to your opinion, but many, MANY people keep bleach on hand as a way to purify water, not knowing it has a limited shelf life. Once you’re aware of that fact, it’s only natural to start looking for more reliable ways to make tainted water potable. Buying a pound of calcium hypochlorite and storing it properly is an easy way to do that, especially if you’re on a budget. I don’t think spending a couple of bucks is a radical wild-eyed survivalist thing to do, but that’s just me.
“I get the impression that is not an honest post”
Maybe you are not an honest person and cannot see honesty.
I know many people growing up where ‘cuss’ was a word not to be used.
How many other words do you use today that were not acceptable just a few years ago? Hmm?
Do you say “suck”, as in, “That sucks!”? “Sucks” comes from oral sex, as in the original usage, “That sucks big donkey d***s”.
How many other pop culture words do you use that are vulgar in their origin that seem to have become acceptable? How about “That blows!”? “Blows” came from “Blow me”, as in oral sex, once again.
Until you understand semantics and the meaning of the words that you use, SHTF is about the least of your worries.
If you're trying to prepare for total social breakdown then acquiring this substance is one of the lowest cost and most important things you can do.
I can't emphasize enough that you don't want to rely on boiling water (even though boiling water does a great job, the logistics involved in boiling water are going to be significantly more than you might imagine).
Anyone interested in this topic should also do some Googling on '+bleach +"white vinegar"'. The combination of these two results in an antiseptic that, apparently, can sanitize even against MRSA(!) Pretty amazing combo!
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