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To: apillar
So the question is, will Obama be another LBJ, where a couple elder statesmen from the democrat party go to him and tell him it's time announce that he is not running in 2012 so that someone that actually has a chance of winning can get into the race?

The old bulls in the Dem party made one of the gravest strategic errors of all time, when they willingly allowed the radical young turks of their party to take control. Obama was the very face of that radical, young, leftist contingent, and they fooked up and made him president.

I doubt there's enough testosterone in their whole party to tap him on the shoulder, now.

23 posted on 07/24/2011 7:16:16 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier
They can't push him aside, because if they do 50% of the black voters will stay home in 2012..and it will be a wipeout of epic proportions...

If Obama's poll numbers continue to implode, and it looks really bad for the dems, then it will have to be the Black caucus memebrs, and one or two black columnists..Eugene Robinson comes to mind..who will make the first "suggestions" that perhaps Barry should step aside...

25 posted on 07/24/2011 7:20:08 PM PDT by ken5050 (Save the earth..it's the ONLY planet with CHOCOLATE!!!)
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To: Windflier
So the question is, will Obama be another LBJ, where a couple elder statesmen from the democrat party go to him and tell him it's time announce that he is not running in 2012 so that someone that actually has a chance of winning can get into the race?

The old bulls in the Dem party made one of the gravest strategic errors of all time, when they willingly allowed the radical young turks of their party to take control. Obama was the very face of that radical, young, leftist contingent, and they fooked up and made him president.

I doubt there's enough testosterone in their whole party to tap him on the shoulder, now.

Well, I'm not even sure if the democrat party has any "elder statesmen" anymore, Carter and Clinton would probably be the closest, and Obama is flat out not going to listen to Clinton because of the bad blood between them during the last camapaign and the fact that Obama will think (maybe correctly) that the only reason Clinton wants him to step aside is so Hillary can run again. As for Carter, I'm not sure if anybody in the party really pays much attention to him.

40 posted on 07/24/2011 7:33:22 PM PDT by apillar
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To: Windflier

I personally think that Senator Charles Schumer—who likely represents the big Wall Street interests in New York City (I’m sure he knows the Board of Directors of Goldman Sachs very well!) is going to realize that Obama’s actions will even take down the awesomely powerful Goldman Sachs and he could force Obama’s hand on this.


68 posted on 07/24/2011 8:01:35 PM PDT by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's economic cure)
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