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To: Signalman
Perry on homosexual marriage in New York 7/22/11:

“And you know what? That's New York,that's their business and that's FINE with me.”

And before you Perrysites insist the statement was about his dedication to “states rights” alone lets change the issue from homosexual marriage to something else:

“And you know what? Sticking a scalpel in the living skull of a partially delivered baby and then sucking it's brains out,that's California,that's their business and that's FINE with me.”

Still all about “states rights?” isn't an immoral abomination still an immoral abomination no matter the excuse?

I can see why Perry endorsed PRO-ABORTION PRO-HOMOSEXUAL MARRIAGE Rudy Guiliani for prez in 2008.He is no social conservative ergo he is no true conservative.

14 posted on 07/24/2011 10:36:20 AM PDT by Happy Rain ("Will Geico save you 15% on your insurance? Is Obama an evil Marxist tyrannical son of a bitch?")
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To: Happy Rain
Still all about “states rights?” isn't an immoral abomination still an immoral abomination no matter the excuse?

The best outcome we will ever achieve on abortion is that it will be a state-by-state issue. If Roe v Wade is ever overturned. it will be a state issue. Here in Texas, we may be an anti-abortion state. NY and CA will always be be pro-abort states. There will NEVER be a time in which abortion is illegal in all 50 (or 57) states. Roe v Wade makes it impossible to outlaw abortion. Its overturn would allow states to outlaw it; but some states never will.

15 posted on 07/24/2011 10:54:15 AM PDT by Sans-Culotte ( Pray for Obama- Psalm 109:8)
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To: Happy Rain
Still all about “states rights?” isn't an immoral abomination still an immoral abomination no matter the excuse?

If it's not a states' rights issue in your mind, then it must be a federal issue. Now that we have established that as your view, what, pray tell, has NY done to violate the US Constitution?

I'm still looking for the part where it defines marriage. Please help me locate that passage. Oh, it's not in there? Are you sure? Well, DAMN...that must be one of those things that is left up to the states.

Perry does not support gay marriage, but said NY has the right to establish its own rules. I guess Perry should have said that NY doesn't have the right to establish its own rules on marriage? That would be mighty Banana Republic of him.

I am amazed at the outright lies and distortions a small group of people are spreading on here about Perry. What have we heard.. He FORCED young girls to take a shot. (outright lie) He was a democrat. (a quarter of a century ago when Republicans couldn't get elected dogcatcher in Texas) He was going to grab land away from landowners, and execute a warranty deed to the Mexicans. (never happened, and never was going to happen) He supports gay marriage. (outright lie)He's from Texas, therefore he's Bush. (That's some logic for you right there) He's GWB III. (who was GWB II?) He backed Rudy (over such superstar leaders as McCain, Romney, and Huckabee) He's only governor b/c of Bush. (and elected 3 times since) He's only governor b/c he runs against weak people. (If one calls KBH weak, then they don't know jack sh!t about Texas) He has no power. The Lt. Gov. has the power (which Perry was). He has hair. (oh the humanity)

It does not bother me 1 bit if people don't like him. But, if you're going to dislike him over issues, people need to make sure they know what the hell they're talking about before they (in general) start spreading outright lies. I like several of the candidates running or flirting with running. I think several could beat Obama. Does it behoove me or the party to trash talk them and spread lies about them? No. And I won't. And this small group of people on here who constantly lie about Perry need to realize that. Focus on the facts. The democrats will give us plenty of lies. We don't need each other doing it.

19 posted on 07/24/2011 12:07:07 PM PDT by GOPyouth ("We're buying shrimp, guys. Come on." - Dear Leader)
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To: Happy Rain

It’s either a State or Federal issue. Which would you prefer to have, a stronger Federal government or a one that gives the states more power? States rights is much closer to home and what the local people prefer rather than some dictatoral group in DC. JMO, apparently yours differs but is your right.


22 posted on 07/24/2011 12:24:11 PM PDT by deport
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