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Permissive parents: Curb your brats
CNN ^ | July 5, 2011 | LZ Granderson

Posted on 07/23/2011 10:13:44 AM PDT by Immerito

Grand Rapids, Michigan (CNN) -- If you're the kind of parent who allows your 5-year-old to run rampant in public places like restaurants, I have what could be some rather disturbing news for you.

I do not love your child.

The rest of the country does not love your child either.

And the reason why we're staring at you every other bite is not because we're acknowledging some sort of mutual understanding that kids will be kids but rather we want to kill you for letting your brat ruin our dinner.

Or our plane ride.

Or trip to the grocery store.

(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com ...


TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: childrearing; children; parenting; parents
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To: mardi59

I took the bag comment and ran with it. No one should have to deal with THAT level of garbage. I know your job is not easy. My kids would be crying in the parking lot if they treated you or the store like you describe. Thanks


61 posted on 07/23/2011 1:10:08 PM PDT by Floyd Rivers
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To: Immerito

I told my mom to shut up once. She grabbed me by my hair, yanked me over to the sink and proceeded to wash my mouth out with “Lava” soap. I must stress that I only did it once. Gee I wonder why.


62 posted on 07/23/2011 1:16:21 PM PDT by chae (I was anti-Obama before it was cool)
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To: chae

LOL...I knew if my Mom was using Lava instead of the regular stuff that she was really p*ssed...I did my best to stay out of her sight for several days.


63 posted on 07/23/2011 1:21:05 PM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: Yorlik803

What is it with wimpy parents today? I and my siblings would NEVER get away with this behavior in public. It would be a swift smack on the butt, or “the look”, or worst of all no punishment and a “wait til’ your dad gets home”. Kept us all in line. And God forbid if a teacher or a neighbor told my parents that I was disrespectful or ill-behaved. Believe me, my parents wouldn’t confront the teacher or neighbor. I’d be the one who suffered the consequences. Teachers today have to deal with parents who insist that their “angel” couldn’t possibly be a problem.


64 posted on 07/23/2011 1:23:22 PM PDT by boop ("Let's just say they'll be satisfied with LESS"... Ming the Merciless)
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To: Floyd Rivers

Bless your heart and thank you so much. Sometimes I wonder how I can smile through it all. Thank you


65 posted on 07/23/2011 1:26:37 PM PDT by mardi59 (T)
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To: famousdayandyear
By the way, by the time your perfect children — assuming they will work — pay into Social Security (oozing a little hate here), I will have been taken out by some bureaucrat serving on some panel under Obamacare. And btw, the reason you can write (perhaps speak) English and not German or Arabic, is because someone of your hateful senior generation gave their life for you and your perfect children.

You made a lot of wrong assumptions in your two posts. One, that I was defending incorrigible kids or their parents. Two, that I somehow was offending members of the Greatest Generation (my dad, a WWII combat navigator, who would agree with me). And three, that I am somehow not a patriot, after a similar military career.

So unload your bigoted assumptions and attitude on someone else.

And by the way, if you must live off social security, you are by definition a loser. All of us can agree on that.

66 posted on 07/23/2011 1:32:16 PM PDT by zipper
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To: 9422WMR

Yes, I called you out (anther slang term) because you were slamming (another slang term) another poster, who happens to be a mom with an autistic child. A child whose behavioral issues are misunderstood by insensitive strangers with no capacity for nuance (not a slang term).


67 posted on 07/23/2011 1:38:28 PM PDT by zipper
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To: COUNTrecount

“This relates to the “buddyfication” of parenting that is all around us.”

I find it ironic that so many (not picking on you COUNT) continue to use that word.

Is it just that I’m a cranky old phart? Does anyone else see the beginning of the problem at about the time “child rearing” became the more passive “parenting?”


68 posted on 07/23/2011 1:44:43 PM PDT by Peet (Leftists think personal liberty is so important it must be carefully rationed.)
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To: chris_bdba

Sorry.

I assumed intelligent people would extrapolate the exceptions to my statement.


69 posted on 07/23/2011 1:46:10 PM PDT by Psycho_Bunny (Public employee unions are the barbarian hordes of our time.)
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To: zipper

Yes. worked for 50 years. Never took a dime from anybody. Lost my only son a few years ago. Yes. You could say I’m a loser.


70 posted on 07/23/2011 1:52:16 PM PDT by famousdayandyear
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To: Louis Foxwell

I like that retort. :-)


71 posted on 07/23/2011 2:03:00 PM PDT by Immerito (Reading Through the Bible in 90 Days)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Oh yes, my divorsed cousin’s children (three wild indians)often threatended to call child services if she ever tried to physically disapline them. Wonder where they learned that? In their leftist run schools most likely.


72 posted on 07/23/2011 2:05:02 PM PDT by Markdpez (Markdpez)
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To: zipper

I don’t think a responsible senior citizen would find a child who is not being taught to be responsible a comfortable thought.

Wise conservative parents discipline a child in accordance with their knowledge of what discipline measures are most effective with that child and in accordance with the situation.


73 posted on 07/23/2011 2:07:35 PM PDT by Immerito (Reading Through the Bible in 90 Days)
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To: MsLady

Unfortunately, autism is so over-diagnosed and misdiagnosed that it is becoming a synonym for “undisciplined child syndrome”.

There are some parents of children with a mental disorder who use the disorder to beg other adults to excuse *ALL* the child’s misbehavior.

Those parents ruin it for the parents whose kids really suffer from the disorder.


74 posted on 07/23/2011 2:09:58 PM PDT by Immerito (Reading Through the Bible in 90 Days)
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To: Markdpez
My kid tried that when he was about 12 years old

I dialed their number and handed him the phone

That was the end of that nonsense

75 posted on 07/23/2011 2:09:58 PM PDT by Popman (Obama. First Marxist to turn a five year Marxist plan into a 4 year administration.)
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To: Popman

Interesting tactic. Was he unwilling to talk to them, I presume? How long ago was this? 1 year? 3? 5? 10?


76 posted on 07/23/2011 2:11:54 PM PDT by Immerito (Reading Through the Bible in 90 Days)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

In my children’s school district, corporal punishment is still used.

In high school, after just two instances of breaking the rules, like having your cellphone on and ringing during class time, the child will be removed from the high school and sent to alternative school.

The schools are very strict. I am pleased, as a parent. I want my children held to a higher standard. I expect them to behave in the home and at school. By learning how to behave like normal human beings when they are children, they will have a head start when they go out into the world and have to interact with others, take care of themselves, and become positive contributors to society.

Those that are raised with the shaky foundation that feelings trump behavioral standards, will not succeed and are in for a rude awakening. I feel sorry for them. Their parents are neglecting them, truly.

Spare the rod, spoil the child.


77 posted on 07/23/2011 2:18:11 PM PDT by Pan_Yans Wife (Utopia is being foisted on Americans for their own good.-- J. Robert Smith)
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To: Immerito

The fact that I used the “dial the phone” tells you it was a while ago

He’s 32 now and while I was dailing I was explaining how wonderful it would be for us to have him placed with complete strangers in foster care so we would not have put up with his bad behavior LOL

We have six and he was the one that tested us daily


78 posted on 07/23/2011 2:25:30 PM PDT by Popman (Obama. First Marxist to turn a five year Marxist plan into a 4 year administration.)
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To: Popman

Forget to add: as soon as I said foster care he hung up the phone


79 posted on 07/23/2011 2:32:48 PM PDT by Popman (Obama. First Marxist to turn a five year Marxist plan into a 4 year administration.)
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To: Floyd Rivers

Running amok in a store or bad behaviour in a restaurant from a child isn’t the same thing as a fussy, crying kid in the store. As a father of twins (now 13), I well remember those tired days and nights and trips to the store. And sometimes had to bring the kids if it couldn’t be helped.

They learned early on that they NEVER got a treat at the store, so they wouldn’t whine about “I want this....” Not to say that they sometimes were cranky and fussy. (They were both real collicky - not fun! And no restaurants for quite a while for us back then.) I feel bad when I see some mom at the store with 2 or 3 tired kids at 11 at night. I guess I give them the benefit of the doubt in that for some reason, that is her only option for shopping at that time.

One public place where we were VERY permissive with our kids. At the dog park by the river. All their clothes on, muddy puddles all over - splashing, getting wet, getting REAL muddy, playing with the dogs, just being kids. They would usually get fun looks from the adults. Sometimes not - especially when other kids would want to join in the fun but “No Sally - you’ll get all muddy!”


80 posted on 07/23/2011 2:39:39 PM PDT by 21twelve (Obama Recreating the New Deal: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts)
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