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The case of the double-headed gold coins
Yahoo news ^ | July 21, 2011 | Claudine Zap

Posted on 07/21/2011 1:36:11 PM PDT by DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis

It's a case that combines history and mystery--and very valuable gold coins. The stakes were certainly high: One of these rare $20 pieces sold for a record $7.59 million in 2002.

Here's the story. A jury decided that a Philadelphia woman, Joan Langbord, who found the coins in her father's bank deposit box, never should have owned them, and that the U.S. government was right to take them back.

The government argued that the never-circulated gold coins should never have been anywhere outside the U.S. Mint. Only a half-million of the coins were made. The rare "double eagle" coins, designed by sculptor August Saint-Gaudens, are fervently sought by collectors—and worth a mint. When the United States abolished the gold standard in 1933, most of the pieces were melted down.

Two were sent to the Smithsonian, and 20 disappeared—the very 20 that can be traced to Langbord's father, a Philadelphia jeweler named Israel Switt. In challenging Langbord's ownership rights, the government argued that the dollar coins were most likely stolen. Langbord, who is 81, argued that her father did business with the Mint, and the coins could have been acquired legally...

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TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: coins; doubleeagles; gold; joanlangbord; langbord
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To: DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis
I would have preferred to rewrite the title, but that is not allowed.

Not blaming you and I already went to the Yahoo site to make my point there. At least it was a 'blog' so journalistic standards are really not a factor - still bad though!

21 posted on 07/21/2011 2:25:26 PM PDT by SES1066 (1776 to 2011, 235 years and counting in the GRAND EXPERIMENT!)
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To: shadowcat

There is a lawsuit. I would argue that if her father had not put them in storage the government would have melted them down and destroyed their value. Therefore if the government tries to sell them, his heirs are due a great deal of the money.


22 posted on 07/21/2011 2:28:21 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Islam is the religion of Satan and Mohammed was his minion.)
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To: DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis

I wonder if intimidation entered into the verdict. I know I wouldn’t have wanted to be on that jury.


23 posted on 07/21/2011 2:29:36 PM PDT by Roccus (Obama & Holder LLP, Procurers of fine arms to the most discerning drug lords (202) 456-1414)
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To: SES1066
it was a 'blog' so journalistic standards are really not a factor

That seems to be a thing with many blogs.

24 posted on 07/21/2011 2:29:49 PM PDT by DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis (Want to make $$$? It's easy! Use FR as a platform to pimp your blog for hits!!!)
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To: Roccus

Interesting thought there. I wouldn’t have wanted to be on that jury either.


25 posted on 07/21/2011 2:38:54 PM PDT by DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis (Want to make $$$? It's easy! Use FR as a platform to pimp your blog for hits!!!)
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To: DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis

I put NOTHING passed my government. (see tag)


26 posted on 07/21/2011 2:42:36 PM PDT by Roccus (Obama & Holder LLP, Procurers of fine arms to the most discerning drug lords (202) 456-1414)
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To: sheana
They could have black marketed them easily.

Actually no it would have been very hard and not worth the effort.

First, there are NO LEGAL TENDER 1933 $20 Gold Coins OTHER than the uniquely declared 2002 Egyptian/Farouk that was auctioned as the SOLE SURVIVING example for that $7+ million price. All of the minted examples were (supposed to be) melted down before they were actually distributed. The commonly accepted story is that the US Mint's Chief Custodial Agent stole these coins by opening the 1933 mint bags and substituting prior year Double Eagles to keep the weights correct prior to the melting.

These coins in this legal case were always illegal and unsalable and that was why they stayed hidden in that safe deposit box. Thus there is no resale market / auction market that such a coin could be sold in.

27 posted on 07/21/2011 2:43:42 PM PDT by SES1066 (1776 to 2011, 235 years and counting in the GRAND EXPERIMENT!)
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To: SES1066

I think the family plans on appealing this case.


28 posted on 07/21/2011 2:45:46 PM PDT by DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis (Want to make $$$? It's easy! Use FR as a platform to pimp your blog for hits!!!)
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To: Roccus

I’m with you on that. The government has given us very little reason to trust them in many matters.


29 posted on 07/21/2011 2:46:48 PM PDT by DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis (Want to make $$$? It's easy! Use FR as a platform to pimp your blog for hits!!!)
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To: SES1066
These coins in this legal case were always illegal and unsalable and that was why they stayed hidden in that safe deposit box. Thus there is no resale market / auction market that such a coin could be sold in.

Kinda like stolen art, eh?

30 posted on 07/21/2011 2:47:18 PM PDT by Roccus (Obama & Holder LLP, Procurers of fine arms to the most discerning drug lords (202) 456-1414)
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To: Arlis
it’s just another proof that our nation is OVER!

Who has time but a useless moron Federal worker to sit on a Federal jury?

It was over the minute they expanded the right to vote.

Time to get out while the getting's good, there is no putting that horse back in the barn.

An electorate that cant tell the difference between Reagan and Obama and gave algore the the popular vote in 2000 has no business in the voting booth.

It is indeed over.

31 posted on 07/21/2011 2:52:35 PM PDT by Rome2000 (OBAMA IS A COMMUNIST CRYPTO-MUSLIM)
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To: SampleMan
If she had sold them, the government still would have taken 38-50%, so this actually shows that they aren’t content with less than 100%.

The government isn't going to sell them so they get nothing for all their effort. They acted primarily out of envy and resentment. You'd think the statute of limitations ran out long ago, especially when it's not certain a crime was even committed. To be consistent if they find out an illegal alien came into the country 80 years ago they have to round up their grand kids and send them all back.

32 posted on 07/21/2011 2:54:38 PM PDT by Reeses (Obamacare: do not resuscitate)
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To: DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis

Possession is 9/10ths of the law ... (unless you have something the government wants).


33 posted on 07/21/2011 3:18:01 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open ( <o> ---)
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To: Reeses

Excellent point about actually monetary benefit; however, the feds prefer 100% of nothing over sharing anything. Yes, it is about control.


34 posted on 07/21/2011 3:19:07 PM PDT by SampleMan (If all of the people currently oppressed shared a common geography, bullets would already be flying.)
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To: Roccus
I wonder if intimidation entered into the verdict. I know I wouldn’t have wanted to be on that jury.

Remember, the prosecutors and judges lie to the jury and leave out critical facts all the time. The "verdicts" are very directed.

35 posted on 07/21/2011 3:21:18 PM PDT by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: smokingfrog
Possession is 9/10ths of the law ... (unless you have something the government wants).

Yep, in which case possession means nothing at all, and the victory goes to whoever has the most force and power avaliable (always the government).

36 posted on 07/21/2011 3:23:11 PM PDT by DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis (Want to make $$$? It's easy! Use FR as a platform to pimp your blog for hits!!!)
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To: SES1066

The government is criminals.


37 posted on 07/21/2011 3:23:11 PM PDT by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: SES1066

Bull. There are collectors that would pay a pretty penny just to have them. There is always a market for everything.


38 posted on 07/21/2011 3:25:20 PM PDT by sheana
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To: SES1066
Remember, we're talking about a crew of thugs who couldn't figure out that President Bill Clinton should go to jail for perjuring himself in the face of a federal judge.

When they stole that pile of silver from the Liberty Dollar guy, that should have tipped you off to how this case was going to end.

The government is thieves, liars and thugs. Why do you think that the Big Banks are "negotiating" a civil settlement for thousands of fraudulent felony paperwork filings?

39 posted on 07/21/2011 3:29:02 PM PDT by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: kiryandil
Would you want to bring in a verdict against the US government? I know I wouldn't like being compelled by conscience to do that.
40 posted on 07/21/2011 3:58:36 PM PDT by Roccus (Obama & Holder LLP, Procurers of fine arms to the most discerning drug lords (202) 456-1414)
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