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1MW eCat to Self Sustain? (E-Cat news roundup)
ECAT NEWS ^ | 7/19/11 | Admin

Posted on 07/20/2011 7:32:01 AM PDT by Liberty1970

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Would be great if some kind of clear demonstration of the technology could take place in September. The Ecat is still hard to believe, but the way the commercial developments are barreling ahead at full speed is consistent with it being for real. I also saw news yesterday that car companies are starting to get involved. An E-Cat-based powertrain will render OPEC into a niche supplier of lubricants and plastics...
1 posted on 07/20/2011 7:32:05 AM PDT by Liberty1970
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To: Kevmo

Ping!


2 posted on 07/20/2011 7:34:08 AM PDT by Liberty1970 (For by grace are you saved through faith.)
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To: Liberty1970
An E-Cat-based powertrain will render OPEC into a niche supplier of lubricants and plastics...

I do not expect to see an e-cat car within the next decade. An e-cat locomotive engine or ship is much more likely within the next 10 years (assuming, as always, that the thing works). This still would have a huge impact on diesel usage, and thus on diesel prices.

3 posted on 07/20/2011 7:39:00 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (When you've only heard lies your entire life, the truth sounds insane.)
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To: Liberty1970

I’m not aware of any eCAT technology being discussed by any current physics journal.

As such, I’m inclined to think that these folk’s have about as much technical ability as a liberal democrat.

Time will tell, and I hope that I’m proved very, very wrong.


4 posted on 07/20/2011 7:40:32 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: PapaBear3625

The same news blurb that mentioned cars also mentioned ships, so you may be right about the initial focus.

I should have mentioned/repeated that Rossi himself denied the September report, but I keep hoping that public pressure pushes them to make a public demonstration sooner than later. I don’t suppose those of us in the cheap seats have much leverage though, in asking for such consideration.


5 posted on 07/20/2011 7:44:27 AM PDT by Liberty1970 (For by grace are you saved through faith.)
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To: Liberty1970

This is an area where I hope to be very, very wrong but this has the sound and smell of all of the shams since the Dean drive. Please let me be wrong.


6 posted on 07/20/2011 7:54:25 AM PDT by muir_redwoods (Somewhere in Kenya, a village is missing an idiot)
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To: Da Coyote

Hmm ~ I thought we had all agreed that the reason for this is physics journals won’t publish anything about LENR ~ which is why you don’t see anything.


7 posted on 07/20/2011 7:54:30 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Liberty1970
A practical, successful demonstration would launch investment into the stratosphere. I don't think they need to be pushed.

The manufacturer is not going to invest a fortune in new plants for a hoax.

I think this is for real. Time will tell. We just have to wait. I'll bet that it won't be very long.

8 posted on 07/20/2011 7:54:33 AM PDT by faucetman (Just the facts ma'am, just the facts)
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To: PapaBear3625
Assuming it all works you will probably see an e-cat automobile within 3 or 4 months.

That's pretty basic stuff ~ just cut, weld, snag, grind, hook in ~ you can cut an adaptive bracket for anything to anything in almost nothing.

Now, as far as major manufacturers doing anything? They'll never get in on it. Due to the Great World Wide Obama Recession labor at custom shops is too cheap, so everything is going to be custom for quite some time.

9 posted on 07/20/2011 7:58:33 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Liberty1970; Admin Moderator

The link leads back to this FR post. Where is the link to the original article?


10 posted on 07/20/2011 8:07:08 AM PDT by 6ppc (It's torch and pitchfork time)
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That's weird. Here is what it should be linking to:

http://ecatnews.com/

11 posted on 07/20/2011 8:28:14 AM PDT by Liberty1970 (For by grace are you saved through faith.)
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To: 6ppc

It should work.

We did change it to go directly to the article now though.

http://ecatnews.com/?p=539


12 posted on 07/20/2011 8:31:05 AM PDT by Admin Moderator
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To: muawiyah
There are some challenges. First we need a safe and reliable way to produce electricity from the heat produced, in a package size small enough for an automobile.

Then we need to have an electric drivetrain. Fortunately, everything learned from electric cars and hybrid vehicles the last few years will be applicable to the E-cat, so this part should be relatively easy for all the automakers who have hybrid/electric cars on the market. (The ones that don't will get hammered and may be headed for bankruptcy.)

The key is the heat to electric conversion. I think it can be done, but I don't think there is anything off-the-shelf that can be used. I'm not well-informed on that, however.

13 posted on 07/20/2011 8:32:29 AM PDT by Liberty1970 (For by grace are you saved through faith.)
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So we are supposed to believe that everyone else: universities, governments, corporations are building their own versions of this in total secrecy?

Either:

1. There’s no there there.
2. The above enitites are real good at keeping secrets.
3. There is so much skepticism that the above enitites are holding back, and reading threads like these.

I vote for 1.


14 posted on 07/20/2011 8:35:35 AM PDT by cicero2k
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To: PapaBear3625
Here's the blurb I was thinking of:

They have made deals with car companies in the R&D sector in order to research the application of the e-cat in cars, also the same applies for ships. He also said that they made a deal with a very big company , but they will not announce that yet.

From http://www.e-catworld.com/

15 posted on 07/20/2011 8:40:44 AM PDT by Liberty1970 (For by grace are you saved through faith.)
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To: cicero2k

I don’t understand your post. The E-cat is a proprietary product developed by Rossi and being commercialized by Defkalion (and Leonardo Corp., etc.) Given that they are the only ones who know how to build one, why do you make mention of other organizations building anything?


16 posted on 07/20/2011 8:43:58 AM PDT by Liberty1970 (For by grace are you saved through faith.)
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To: Liberty1970
STEAM ~ we have several centuries of experience with steam. You can make suitible steam controllers in almost any body shop.

Just get the power units going and the torque converters will pop up like dandelions in the spring.

17 posted on 07/20/2011 8:44:06 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Admin Moderator; Liberty1970

It works properly now.


18 posted on 07/20/2011 8:49:46 AM PDT by B4Ranch (Allowing Islam into America is akin to injecting yourself with AIDS to prove how tolerant you are...)
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To: PapaBear3625
I think you are correct. All those homes in the East that have water boilers will be naturals for the E-cat. That would reduce heating oil usage significantly. Stationary gensets etc should also be a high priority.
20 posted on 07/20/2011 9:22:37 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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