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Lancing the "She Quit!" Boil One Last Time
Tuesday July 12, 2011 | Gargantua

Posted on 07/12/2011 10:47:52 AM PDT by Gargantua

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To: EveningStar
Do you even know what the meaning of ‘lame duck’ is in the context of being still in office but unable to accomplish the work due to the opposition using your lack of political threat as an outgoing pol? Your derangement is pushing embarrassing proportions.
81 posted on 07/12/2011 5:27:38 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: Gargantua; Fresh Wind

In your first post, as a reply to your own article, you used the word abdicated, and you said they all did. They all did not. Where did Fresh Wind say that you used it in the article?


82 posted on 07/12/2011 5:32:19 PM PDT by Raider Sam (They're on our left, right, front, and back. They aint gettin away this time!)
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To: MHGinTN

I dont doubt that she felt it was necessary for the security of Alaska for her to step aside. But she did leave before her term was up, and it because she had been elected to higher office.

I think the quit issue is somewhat silly, because the people who are going to vote for her no matter what will find a way to justify it by saying she did it for good reasons. And the people who are not going to vote for her will say that if she can be run out as Governor, what will happen as President (that is not my position, just stating what their line will be). And I dont think the independents will care about this issue. With the economy, 3 wars, government philosophy, class warfare, and social issues, I think this will be pretty low on the “vote for her, or not” scale.


83 posted on 07/12/2011 5:42:15 PM PDT by Raider Sam (They're on our left, right, front, and back. They aint gettin away this time!)
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To: MHGinTN

Dead on right. For those questioning that wisdom, may I suggest picking up a copy of “The Art of War” by Sun Tzu. Many of the questions about what SP is doing become crystal clear when looked at through that prizm.

Someone on her team knows and more importantly, ‘inderstands’ that book - to it’s very core. If not she herself, then someone advising her closely.


84 posted on 07/12/2011 5:45:55 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: wtc911; Rippin
Did you ever quit a trial halfway through it?

Ha. Are you kidding? Stop quitting out of our statutory discussion halfway through and I’ll consider responding. Till then, I'll wait for Rippin. Thanks anyway, "sweetie."

85 posted on 07/12/2011 6:08:25 PM PDT by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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To: Gargantua
Excellent, Gargantua. What the Left sees in Sarah is the biggest threat to their 'cookie jar' existence since Reagan, and that will have an effect on all who intend to 'raid' it, including Rinos.

Obama wants to expand the jar so more hands can get into it and he's willing to do it on credit. I don't think his mom ever slapped him for raiding the jar but his grandma might have as he threw her under the bus (typical WP).

When you think about it, America needs a strong mom or Grizzly, if you will. This house is a mess, nobody's doing what they should, and their grades seem to fall no matter who runs the show. I don't think America can do any more Weekends at Bernies with star-studded punks like Obama throwing parties while the bills go unpaid.

Thanks again.

86 posted on 07/12/2011 6:13:10 PM PDT by budwiesest (It's that girl from Alaska, again.)
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To: Springfield Reformer

Showing your true colors. Didn’t take long in spite of your civil pretensions.


87 posted on 07/12/2011 6:16:15 PM PDT by wtc911 ("How you gonna get down that hill?")
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To: Gargantua
For the first time as well as the last, I point out that every sitting elected official in history, who ever chose to run for higher office, abdicated his seated position to do so.

(There's that word "abdicated" again. Y'know, the one you never used?)

Let's see now, "every sitting elected official...." All that's necessary to prove you don't know what you're talking about is to find one candidate who remained in his current office while running for a higher one, right?

- Senator Lieberman has already been mentioned. But you wouldn't acknowledge your blunder.

- Senator McCain has been mentioned. But still you persisted in your error.

- How about Senator Kerry? Will that be the one that prompts you to admit your mistake? Or are you simply a dishonest supporter of Sarah Palin?
88 posted on 07/12/2011 6:21:15 PM PDT by LearsFool ("Thou shouldst not have been old, till thou hadst been wise.")
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To: Rippin

I was in MA when Romney did worse by running full-time for president instead of governing for the last two years of his one term in office. Didn’t Perry recently promise that he would fulfill his term rather than run for president? Then there’s Michele Bachmann who devoted herself to running for president full-time within a couple of months of the start of her third term in Congress.

What would you have us go up against Obama with? TPaw? Huntsman? I say we go with the most gifted and principled candidate we’ve had in a generation and yes, that would be Gov. Palin.


89 posted on 07/12/2011 6:23:49 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Raider Sam
Blabatron never said that I mentioned it in my article. I told Blabs that I didn't mention it in my article. Not once. Clean your glasses, dude.

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90 posted on 07/12/2011 6:33:17 PM PDT by Gargantua ("Palin 2012 ~ Going Oval")
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To: LearsFool
Just to avoid having to repeat myself to your numb pals, please tell them all to read this. They quite obviously follow your marching orders. I'll use mostly small words. When any, and every, sitting politician announces their intention to run for a higher/further/different political office than the one they currently hold, they are announcing two things:

1) That they intend to win election to a different office. This announcement alone qualifies as an abdication of their existing office. Merely in order to run for that further office will require their total involvement in a series of activities which will require them to cease performing the duties they were elected to perform. A willful abdication of their elected position.

2) That while they might appreciate the high honor bestowed upon them in their current elected role, it is not what they aspire to. Whether they win the new position and do not return, or lose the new bid and later return egg-faced, that have already let their constituents know that, given their druthers, they'd be elsewhere. A de facto abdication.

Slice it, dice it, spin it up, down or sideways, it is an abdication when you seek any higher futher/different office than the one you now hold.

Period.

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91 posted on 07/12/2011 6:48:24 PM PDT by Gargantua ("Palin 2012 ~ Going Oval")
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To: EveningStar
"I don't know how you can claim lame duck status when you have 16 months left in your term."

Easy. There are two kinds of Lame Ducks.

One is a person who has less than half their term remaining and is about to embark upon a re-election bid (1.5 to 2 years in the current political lexicon). Sarah was there.

The other is a pol who either lost their party majority in the relevant congress and can, as a result, no longer effect their policies, or an Executive who has already accomplished all of their goals and campaign promises, and has nothing left to finish. Sarah was also there.

I think you're letting your animus cloud your logic.

8^|

92 posted on 07/12/2011 6:54:48 PM PDT by Gargantua ("Palin 2012 ~ Going Oval")
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To: Gargantua
What does any of that have to do with Sarah Palin's resignation?

Wasn't that the whole point of your original post? To exonerate her regarding her resignation? A resignation that took place not before the election, but after she lost?

How does your use of the word "abdicate" in post #91 square with your use of it in your original post? How does a "notice of intent to resign if I win" square up with an "I lost but am resigning anyway"?

it is an abdication when you seek any higher futher/different office than the one you now hold.

But see, that's not what you were defending Palin for. You're making things up as you go along.

If she decides to run for President, Sarah Palin will have plenty of obstacles to overcome. You seemed determined to be one of them - which makes me suspect you're an agent provacateur.
93 posted on 07/12/2011 7:06:57 PM PDT by LearsFool ("Thou shouldst not have been old, till thou hadst been wise.")
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To: Gargantua
The other is a pol who either lost their party majority in the relevant congress and can, as a result, no longer effect their policies, or an Executive who has already accomplished all of their goals and campaign promises, and has nothing left to finish. Sarah was also there.

So, if I'm understanding this right, about a year and a half into her first term (when she became McCain's running mate) she had already accomplished everything the voters elected her to office to do?

I'm impressed. If she's that efficient, she can probably resign from the presidency in just a couple of years, once she gets the US budget at a surplus situation instead of these deficits we have now.

94 posted on 07/12/2011 7:07:25 PM PDT by Wissa (Gone Galt)
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To: EveningStar
In her resignation speech, Palin (™) mentions the lawsuits but doesn't give that as the reason for her resignation.

You're not even trying to be objective are you.

Palin describes the lawsuit problem.

Palin talks about her choices given the lawsuit problem.

Palin chooses a course of action given the lawsuit problem.

All one has to do is read what she said.

95 posted on 07/12/2011 8:33:00 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: Wissa
Exactly.

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96 posted on 07/12/2011 8:56:46 PM PDT by Gargantua ("Palin 2012 ~ Going Oval")
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To: LearsFool
"...which makes me suspect you're an agent provacateur."

Only if you completely ignore my puissant rélade, the fact that I teach a refreshser course for sous chefs at l'Obêrge every third Saturday of the month, and my recently passed Mom's love for my walnut brownies.

How could you be so callous?! I know it's the hurly burly of a political "Silly Season," but for God's sake, man...

...have you no soul?

(_8(|) . . . DOH!!!

97 posted on 07/12/2011 9:03:00 PM PDT by Gargantua ("Palin 2012 ~ Going Oval")
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To: wtc911
"Did you ever quit a trial halfway through it?"

Just once.

I had been selected for Jury Duty, and it was a case where an inmate was accused of attacking a guard with a broom during a prison riot. Halfway through (roughly) the trial, I realized that the defendant was a guy I had gone to gradeschool with. He had legally changed his name. Anyway, I informed the Judge and he gave me this big, puffed-up lecture (I think he secretly hit the sauce during bathroom breaks) and sent me packing.

I guess that's the equivalent of "quitting."

You?

3*{)

98 posted on 07/12/2011 9:10:24 PM PDT by Gargantua ("Palin 2012 ~ Going Oval")
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To: wtc911

Classic. I’d expect no less of you. I’ve bit my tongue to keep it as civil as I have. I’m not particularly fond of have dark innuendo played on me behind my back, as you have done elsewhere, without apology. True colors indeed. Get a life, “sweetie.”

Oh, and I am perfectly willing to answer your question. I have a great answer that supports my position. I only believe, really, truly, and sincerely, it would be utterly wasted on you. Why should I go through that, to benefit one who will not appreciate it? Your “keep it classy sweetie” is your own language. You used it on someone you thought was stooping below uncivil limits, but you can’t take what you can dish out. Are those your true colors?


99 posted on 07/12/2011 9:16:36 PM PDT by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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To: FreeReign

So, did she ever apologize to the people of Alaska for “championing” and signing the law that resulted in thousands of hours and millions of dollars being wasted?


100 posted on 07/12/2011 9:35:47 PM PDT by Wissa (Gone Galt)
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