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The Michigan Republican Party is trying to decide: Caucus, Convention, or Closed Primary?
7/12/11 | jenk

Posted on 07/12/2011 8:52:32 AM PDT by jenk

There is discussion as to what Michigan should do:

1)Close the primary and there are numerous suggestions as to how to qualify voters. Registration as R's, allowing only R's to vote for the Republican Pres. nominee--down to calling our open primary a closed primary by simply asking to have either a Dem or R ballot (which is what we do now.)

2)Hold a convention

3)Caucus

The arguments against all are numerous.

The caucus argument seems to be losing steam because of the difficulty to organize it in very small and very big counties.

The convention argument is gaining steam, but personally, I think it is unfair, considering that if I come from a small county, but have a lot of Republicans who may be against the establishment, that they would not be able to vote, since we can only send 4 or 6 delegates to a convention, and a large county could vote with numerous delegates for the establishment.

I believe we should close the primary, so that only registered Republicans can vote for the Republican, and the grassroots works to register R's, making the arguments on the street level.

What say you?


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To: nascarnation

If Dims vote in the Republican primary, they should be prohibited from voting for a democrat in the general election that year. In other words, you should have to declare your party affiliation in the primary and that party will be the party you vote for in the general. Only the party regulars should be allowed to vote for their candidate.


41 posted on 07/12/2011 11:14:40 AM PDT by FrdmLvr
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To: jenk

When an individual registers as a member of a political party is there a way to find out how long they’ve been a member? If so, perhaps a modified closed primary would work best. Modified in that each consecutive year a person was registered with the party would count as a vote. That way, uneducated teens and party-switching saboteurs would have very little impact and the older people with loyalty to the party would be rewarded for their consistency.

It could perhaps be broken down as percentages: Registered member for more than 10 uninterrupted years = 100% value for primary vote, between 5 years and 10 years = 80% value, 3 to 5 years = 50% value, more than 1 year but less than 3 years = 30% value, less than 1 year = 10% value.

So one dedicated Republican could offset the votes of 10 leftists that try to affect the process.

Yes? No? Comments?


42 posted on 07/12/2011 11:17:20 AM PDT by Two Kids' Dad ((((( )))))
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To: FrdmLvr

How can you dictate to someone who they will vote for in a general election based on their registration.

That’s contrary to the American principles of secret ballot.


43 posted on 07/12/2011 11:19:02 AM PDT by nascarnation
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To: jenk

Closed Primary


44 posted on 07/12/2011 11:20:05 AM PDT by TomasUSMC ( FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM)
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To: nascarnation
I agree, but the alternative is worse.

This is why changing the nominating process from the convention run by the party to a primary system open to the electorate was a horrible idea. The party can not control who their nominee is in an open primary.

Basically, if the party you want to vote for in the general election is not holding a primary, then you won't be voting in a primary election. There is no constitutional right to vote in a primary election.

45 posted on 07/12/2011 11:55:59 AM PDT by FrdmLvr
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To: jenk

Gold ticket in a Wonka bar would be fine just so long as it isn’t an open primary.


46 posted on 07/12/2011 1:35:42 PM PDT by jimfree (In 2012 Sarah Palin will have more quality executive experience than Barack Obama.)
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To: FrdmLvr

I forget who won our last presidential primary in Michigan.

Wasn’t it either Romney or McCain?

Oddly enough, there was technically no democrat presidential primary which I think might have been part of the game all along.


47 posted on 07/12/2011 2:52:43 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: cripplecreek

It was Romney.


48 posted on 07/12/2011 4:04:02 PM PDT by FrdmLvr
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To: FrdmLvr

Personally I wish we had a single primary day nationwide. After the first 25 states have made their decision, candidates have dropped out who may have done well in later states.


49 posted on 07/12/2011 4:12:33 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: cripplecreek
There is entirely too much wrong with the primary system as it currently stands. Your idea makes sense.

The Founding Fathers knew what they were doing when they established the convention system for choosing the party's candidates. The problem of direct elections by the populace in the primaries as opposed to the elections by the delegates parallels the problems we would have if we switched to a popular vote, forsaking the electoral college.

At any rate, though, CLOSE OUR PRIMARY ELECTIONS!

50 posted on 07/12/2011 4:37:06 PM PDT by FrdmLvr
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To: FrdmLvr; cripplecreek; jimfree; TomasUSMC; nascarnation; Two Kids' Dad; Lakeshark; grellis; ...
The policy committee voted for a closed primary, but with voters declaring R or D when they are at the polling place. Which is not a closed primary, but a semi-open primary.

Not a big surprise.

51 posted on 07/13/2011 12:31:38 PM PDT by jenk (The old Republican Party has no idea what is going on. No idea.)
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To: FrdmLvr; cripplecreek; jimfree; TomasUSMC; nascarnation; Two Kids' Dad; Lakeshark; grellis; ...

Thanks all for your input.


52 posted on 07/13/2011 12:32:59 PM PDT by jenk (The old Republican Party has no idea what is going on. No idea.)
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To: jenk

Considering the fact that you can only vote one way or the other on a ballot, it sounds like no change.


53 posted on 07/13/2011 12:34:00 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: cripplecreek

yes, you are correct


54 posted on 07/13/2011 12:39:55 PM PDT by jenk (The old Republican Party has no idea what is going on. No idea.)
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To: jenk

Good luck!


55 posted on 07/13/2011 12:50:50 PM PDT by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: jenk
I'm hearing that state party supports a closed primary. My friend who is connected but supports a caucus said that he thinks the primary won't be as closed as it should be.

I don't know what I support except no democraps voting in my primary or caucus. That's how we got stuck with Snyder.

56 posted on 07/13/2011 12:53:37 PM PDT by Darren McCarty (I am not lead by any politician. I am my own leader.)
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To: cripplecreek

Romney won with about 39 or 40%. It wasn’t as high as expected.


57 posted on 07/13/2011 12:58:14 PM PDT by Darren McCarty (I am not lead by any politician. I am my own leader.)
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To: jenk
but with voters declaring R or D when they are at the polling place.

At the polling place? I don't like that a bit.

58 posted on 07/13/2011 1:00:49 PM PDT by Darren McCarty (I am not lead by any politician. I am my own leader.)
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To: jenk

It’s a big disappointment. With the Rats having no competition, they’ll be flocking in droves to make mischief.


59 posted on 07/13/2011 1:01:49 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Oh, well, any excuse to buy a new gun is good enough for me.)
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To: Darren McCarty

Zero difference as far as I can tell. After all, you can only vote one way on a ballot anyway.

All this does is gives them a list of people they can inundate with robocalls.


60 posted on 07/13/2011 1:17:46 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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