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1 posted on 07/05/2011 10:26:54 AM PDT by traumer
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Rush is talking about this very thing right now.


2 posted on 07/05/2011 10:30:35 AM PDT by supremedoctrine ("uncurtaining the night,I'd let dark glass/hang all the furniture above the grass." -Nabokov)
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It will be harder than ever to uproot socialism if you have a large contingent of middle-aged people who are considered unemployable.

We can let them starve, or ... we can send them checks and make the workers pay higher taxes.

Pain is coming. It could take several forms, but there is no gentle trajectory that takes us out of this problem.

3 posted on 07/05/2011 10:34:32 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The USSR spent itself into bankruptcy and collapsed -- and aren't we on the same path now?)
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As we dumb down the country and produce less and less we do not need more expensive experienced workers, we just need warm bodies; young & dumb.


5 posted on 07/05/2011 10:36:43 AM PDT by CodeToad (Islam needs to be banned in the US and treated as a criminal enterprise.)
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All I can say is that when you sow the wind, you reap the whirlwind. It was those middle-aged people who are most responsible for running up the various state and national debts.


6 posted on 07/05/2011 10:37:05 AM PDT by Jonty30
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I wonder how those pro-Obama 20 somethings are going to feel when they get out in the workforce and their taxes go up so that middle age folks can sit at home and collect welfare and unemployment.
7 posted on 07/05/2011 10:37:54 AM PDT by apillar
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If there are an unemployed freepers out there who seek encouragement and advice, please send me a private email. I am NOT hawking anything! I am in my forties with a very good resume (”good” until unemployment, that is.) I lost my VP-at-a-large-company job in June 2009 and then couldn't look for work for a year on account of a family matter, so I was effectively in limbo from June 2009 to May 2010. From June 2010 to December 2010, I killed myself trying to find a job and then relievedly took a long-term temp spot in January 2010. Two weeks ago, the company where I've been temping made me a “regular” employee. My salary is 25% below what it was two years ago, but I have benefits and the future looks bright. I believe I can offer sound advice to middle-aged unemployed people who are despairing. Again, please shoot me a private email.
14 posted on 07/05/2011 10:49:15 AM PDT by utahagen
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get rid of the EPA, get rid of 90% of regulations, and you would double manufacturing in 2-3 years.

non-right to work states would and will be screwed, as no one will build manufacturing plants in those areas because of the union regulations, unless they are offered millions or billions in incentives (which comes from the taxpayers).

but I don’t see this happening, manufacturing is gone, and I don’t think it is coming back.

the only jobs that can be created at this point are government, which as we’ve seen, costs 300k to a million bucks to create one part time position that pays 20k a year, and those jobs only last a year or two, because they get cut in budgets that need to pay for the pensions of the union members.

we’ll be moving more and more to a barter system for goods and services.


17 posted on 07/05/2011 10:56:51 AM PDT by esoxmagnum
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The only way out of this, sustainably, is to get back to bedrock principles and fight our way out. I just don’t see the will to do that among many. We don’t even have a consistent national identity anymore. Interestingly, the last time public pride in America and confidence in our nation’s future were approaching levels as low as they are now was at the end of the Carter presidency.


25 posted on 07/05/2011 11:18:10 AM PDT by pieceofthepuzzle
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I'll be working two part-time jobs for the rest of my working years. I make half of what I made 5 years, BUT I am Soooo grateful to have steady work.
26 posted on 07/05/2011 11:18:59 AM PDT by Huskrrrr
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I’m a:

1) 44 year old conservative male
2) college educated
3) Possess a class A CDL
4) Microsoft Certified
5) Own 1/5 of a bar—not much money there-bars have razor thin profit margins
6) I’m presently working in a dead end job(warehousing) at a company that really isn’t going anywhere
7) I have come to accept that my prime earning days have probably past me by.
8) I am in extreme economic survival mode at this time.

Am I angry or depressed??? NO!!!!

The government can tax me to death.
The left can PC me to death with insane racial quotas or EOE directed at women.
The media can ridicule white males as knuckle dragging, draconian,Bible Thumping, Bitter Clinging re-necks.

But none of this will ever break my F__kin’ spirit.

The left want a battle....they F’d with the wrong person.

In my mind, I’m a very free man and the left CAN NEVER take THAT away!!!!

JMO...


28 posted on 07/05/2011 11:20:20 AM PDT by Le Chien Rouge
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I'll be working two part-time jobs for the rest of my working years. I make half of what I made 5 years, BUT I am Soooo grateful to have steady work.
29 posted on 07/05/2011 11:20:20 AM PDT by Huskrrrr
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Hey Charles, your'e an idiot. If Sarah wins the GOP nomination I am 100% certain that you will endorse Obama. NO elite will ever support someone like Sarah. Their arrogance knows no bounds.

Hey Charles, you and your stupid elites from the Ivy league schools have done irreparable harm to our Republic!

Hey Charles, you and your piggish elite friends think with your superior intellects can construct an economic system (Socialism) and out perform Capitalism. Never will happen.

Charles, you and your elites buddies are true parasites on back of the productive in this society. You deserve nothing but contempt.

Hey Charles, if we had the Republic our Founders wanted us to have, (unbridled capitalism, almost unseen central govt), then we would be enjoying vacation homes on the Moon and Mars. Instead, with the left winning, we are being pushed into a Socialist sewer, all the while being told it's our fault.

32 posted on 07/05/2011 11:26:05 AM PDT by sand88 (Sarah Palin announces her run: August 12, 2011 11:10am ET)
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My simplistic concern on this issue is that -

‘Middle Aged’ have the real world technology know-how, the young ones have the academic know-how.

It could be that the young can and will rediscover first hand knowledge, but it could be argued that they will benefit from learning from the ‘Middle Aged’.

Companies hiring the 20-somethings mostly for their cheaper starting salaries and ‘gambled’ on the technology transfer by the Middle Aged willingly and completely.


35 posted on 07/05/2011 11:30:58 AM PDT by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = CCCP; JournOList + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey!)
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Old school unemployment charts which have not been tinkered with by Zero’s administration can be found at http://www.shadowstats.com/alternate_data/unemployment-charts

Real unemployment has been above 20% for a long time


44 posted on 07/05/2011 11:45:15 AM PDT by Nobel_1 (bring on the Patriots!)
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When my business crapped in December of 2008, I fired up the resume machine and looked forward to returning to some type of manufacturing job. After almost two years of looking and hundreds of resumes sent out, I was told by a friend in the placement industry that because I was sixty years old, I should find a way to retire gracefully. It was providential that my sixty-second birthday was around the corner so we went ahead with an early retirement. I could not imagine being a few years younger and having to hand out smiley faces at Wally World to scrape by until retirement.


45 posted on 07/05/2011 11:48:12 AM PDT by Big_Harry (Ecc10:2 "A wise man's heart is at his right hand; but a fool's heart at his left")
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If we can throw off the dictator and return America to her Founding Ideals... American Exceptionalism will provide jobs for all skilled Americans... and no one is more skilled or educated more properly than America's middle aged citizens. Think Reagan and stop with the defeatism... We can do it... it was not easy to do it when Reagan was President... but we did it then and we will do again... we are REAL Americans... something obama and the dims will NEVER be.

LLS

60 posted on 07/05/2011 3:23:14 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer ("GIVE ME LIBERTY OR GIVE ME DEATH"! I choose LIBERTY and PALIN!)
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