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Los Lunas Decalogue

1 posted on 06/28/2011 6:07:48 PM PDT by SunkenCiv
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To: SunkenCiv

Doesn’t really look old to me. The writing is still white after more than 600 years? Not likely.


4 posted on 06/28/2011 6:11:29 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: SunkenCiv

“Scholars who have studied the stone say it pre-dates the arrival of Columbus to America”

How so?

I can see some happy go lucky, educated, educated Spanish explorer types tired of all the Catholicism deciding to leave a prank to confound the church which was the main settlement influence of the area in the time before the 1800’s.


6 posted on 06/28/2011 6:16:52 PM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: SunkenCiv

Meant to include that the pranksters were Jewish.


7 posted on 06/28/2011 6:18:06 PM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: SunkenCiv

There is no patina. The lettering is white with no wear. The whole article makes me want to say “eye roll”. I did a search and cannot find conformation on this find (doesn’t mean its not there just couldn’t find it).


9 posted on 06/28/2011 6:22:10 PM PDT by svcw (Non forgiveness is like holding a hot coal thinking the other person will be blistered)
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To: SunkenCiv

I wouldn’t buy this at wholesale.


13 posted on 06/28/2011 6:36:55 PM PDT by decimon
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To: SunkenCiv
A claim as fantastic as pre-Columbian Hebrews carving the Decalogue in New Mexico needs evidence stronger than that provided by this article. According to one article it was first found in 1936 any date referring to the stone before 1936 was stated to be unconfirmed. Those familiar with Mormon history would be aware that they studied Hebrew.
14 posted on 06/28/2011 6:37:22 PM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: SunkenCiv

“Early 1800s?”

This smells of Sidney Rigdon, Mormon extraordinaire. He was trained in Hebrew.


15 posted on 06/28/2011 6:37:37 PM PDT by ConservativeMind ("Humane" = "Don't pen up pets or eat meat, but allow infanticide, abortion, and euthanasia.")
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To: SunkenCiv

A fraud.


19 posted on 06/28/2011 6:52:31 PM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Ping for later


20 posted on 06/28/2011 7:00:26 PM PDT by muir_redwoods (Somewhere in Kenya, a village is missing an idiot)
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To: SunkenCiv
Really,Mick and Kieth should be fossilized by now.
23 posted on 06/28/2011 7:26:35 PM PDT by Happy Rain ("Sans Sarah Bachmann's The One.")
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To: SunkenCiv

Bookmark for later.


40 posted on 06/28/2011 8:29:30 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (Made in America, by proud American citizens, in 1946.)
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To: SunkenCiv

1st off it’s a load of crap.

2nd I cannot locate the name of the author.

3rd probably written by a Mormon to support their claims.

Doesn’t pass the smell test.


41 posted on 06/28/2011 8:34:34 PM PDT by Vendome ("Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it anyway")
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To: SunkenCiv
So I note with some disdain the characters on the rock.
 
There are 3's, 4's, 9's, X, T, backwards K, L, and on and on.
 
None of which are part of the Hebrew alphabet.
 
 
 
 

42 posted on 06/28/2011 8:43:05 PM PDT by Vendome ("Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it anyway")
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To: MHGinTN

Another Rock fake with phony Hebrew alphabet.


43 posted on 06/28/2011 8:44:10 PM PDT by Vendome ("Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it anyway")
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To: SunkenCiv

If genuine, the inscription predates Columbus by a long shot: by between 2 and 3 thousand years. The script appears to be Middle Semitic, in use between 1500 BC and 500 BC. I can’t make out much of it but the Hebrew letter Aleph (equivalent to “A”), which appears numerous times on the inscription, is distinctive to Middle Semitic.

The inscription apparently has been cleaned, with the letters filled in with white pigment. I have no idea how an inscription dated to this historical period would fit in with the Morman “history” of the New World (which in any case I do not accept as valid).

For the inscription to be a fraud would require someone with in-depth knowledge of the Ancient Near East and early Hebrew language, who was present in the American Southwest in the late 19th century. But what would such an obviously educated individual esp. for their time be doing creating inscriptions in such remote localities?

On the other hand, if valid, this is an astounding discovery, and opens up intriguing possibilities regarding Semitic/Hebrew peoples journeying to and possibly settling in North America.

Full disclosure: I studied classical (and some modern) Hebrew for years in college and graduate school under a professor who was also a rabbi, but unfortunately it has mostly lapsed due to disuse.


44 posted on 06/28/2011 8:44:56 PM PDT by tjd1454
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To: SunkenCiv
The FR 2006-7 thread on this has some good information.
Same smack-downs would apply to some on this thread.

"I (am) Jehovah [the Eternal] Eloah [your God] who brought you out of the land of Mitsrayim [Mizraim or the two Egypts] out of the house of bondages.
You shall not have other [foreign] gods in place of (me).
You shall not make for yourself molded (or carved) idols [graven images].
You shall not lift up your voice to connect the name of Jehovah in hate.
Remember you (the) Sabbath to make it holy.
Honor your father and your mother to make long your existence upon the land which Jehovah Eloah [the Eternal your God] gave to you.
You shall not murder.
You shall not commit adultery (or idolatry).
You shall not steal (or deceive).
You shall not bear witness against your neighbor, testimony for a bribe.
You shall not covet (the) wife of your neighbor and all which belongs to your neighbor. "


Translation props to FReeper on 2006-7 thread.
57 posted on 06/28/2011 9:04:58 PM PDT by Tainan (Cogito Ergo Conservitus.)
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To: SunkenCiv

I have been all over this part of NM wonder why I have never heard of this stone?


94 posted on 06/29/2011 7:32:37 AM PDT by Ditter
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