Come on Knuckles, stop hiding and act tough or something
Posted on 06/27/2011 9:41:35 PM PDT by West Texas Chuck
I cut the grass today, it was hot hot hot in Garland, TX.
After that I did a little watering. Now, I'm outside a fair bit, notice all the people going by. Typical people out walking, people on bikes, noisy vehicles. There are several laborer types who cruise by on their 24" girl's bikes, I know most of 'em on sight.
Something weird happened around 5:30 or so. I see a Hispanic guy, maybe 30-40ish, on a bike, approaching from a direction that is not typical. No big deal, typical laborer guy with jeans and a sleeved western shirt and ball cap. He rolls through the stop sign and turns, still nothing unusual, but then he pulls into my neighbor's driveway up to the corner of their fence. As he turns the corner my neighbor's dog starts barking, that was weird, his dogs are always curious about passers by but they don't normally bark. This jerk stops right by the chainlink, I'm thinking he knows these dogs, and spits right in the face of the male.
Both are pits, which I don't have any particular issue with, but at that point the big one starts going nuts. Clearly, they recognized this idiot. He gets back on his bike and rides off down the sidewalk. Now, the male pitty is trying to jump over the 8' fence to get at this guy, dogs know when they are being dissed. That dog can jump 3/4 of the way over that fence, and wanted out bad.
Guy spit right in that dog's face. He's lucky they put up a fence taller than the 6' they used to have, because he could have cleared that, I swear. That dog wants this guy, he knew who it was when the scumbag turned the corner and rode up to his property.
I'll be watching for that moron, don't know what I can do but yell at him, but man I'd love to see that dog get a piece of his leg. Yeah, I'll diall 911 and all, but I'll also tell the cops what I saw him do and how I figure he had it coming if it happens.
After giving them tasty treats for a while, the big male became a puppy with me. Literally adored me, treats or not. The female remained distant, but did not act in the least hostile. Dogs are different, treats can cure most all misunderstandings.
Antagonizing a dog is probably not lawful. It is a breach of the peace.
/johnny
“I guess he ain’t breaking any laws I could report to GPD, but he clearly has some chip on his shoulder about those dogs.”
Maybe trespassing? Is their some old law on the books about harassing livestock and “working animals” (horses and dogs)? Google it. Also, you can always report “suspicious activity” to the PD...
we have a 100-pound pit and he might knock down and lick an intruder to death but not much more. He’s also scared of cameras, including cell phone cameras. He will hide if someone is trying to take his picture.
Come on Knuckles, stop hiding and act tough or something
I know a guy with a pit mix, who's the opposite of the pit owner stereotype: he's a cheery but quiet intellectual, who lived in the U.K. while he was attending graduate school (archaeology.) He told me once that pits are used there to look after children. I looked at him to see if he was kidding me, but he wasn't. Eyewitness report.
Well ya see, that’s sort of the point. Someone who has a beef with pit bulls and spits at one.....not exactly pegging the “evil meter” as far as I’m concerned.
Quite a few years ago, I had a friend in Houston that owned a wrecking yard protected by a big, viscious white Shepard/Pit mix that was kept chained to an old flat bed in the front of the yard with 40 feet of heavy chain. There was also about 40 feet of dirt between the dog and a water filled ditch that ran along the front of the property next to the road.
Every day, a group of 10 or so Mexicans would come by and harass that dog from the road. The dog would hit the end of that chain so hard that the flat bed trailer shook. We often speculated what would happen if someone accidentally left the chain unhooked. Finally, someone did!:)
When the dog realized that he was loose, he didn’t respond at all to the taunts, instead just lay under the flatbed watching. One of the idiots finally jumped the ditch and shouted at the dog from inside the “kill zone”. The dog just watched (so did my brother and I from behind a pile of scrap metal). With the rest of his fellows cheering him on, the Mex with the big testicles got within 10 feet of the pit with no response from the dog. Then he turned his back... that animal had him by the back of the upper arm in about a half second and started dragging him back under the trailer. The others left screaming in terror while their friend was being mauled.
When my brother and I realized that the guy was going to be eaten, we stopped laughing ourselves silly, and pried Dog’s jaws open with two railroad spikes. The guy’s upper arm was torn so bad you could see daylight between the back of arm and the bone. As soon as he was loose, he jumped back over the ditch and ran like Hades away from the property, and Dog went back under the trailer. I would swear that he had a grin on his face.
Unless there's a castle-law in Texas. In this case, it's better to end the threat forever.
That's where we differ. I say someone that goes out of his way to bicycle over to an innocent animal (I don't care what breed it is, it's penned up and has to be in the place where this person can DO this) in the heat you describe (most normal people would get to their destination quickly and not bother to do something that weird), and DOES this, TOTALLY has whatever it takes to be evil enough to take his "evil meter" to the next level, quite easily. You are only seeing the beginning levels of evil.
Answer me this: How many people do YOU know that would even THINK of doing that? ....Yah, I thought so. Point made.
Well don’t ask me a question and then pretend to provide my answer and claim “point made”. Very bad debating technique.
I just can’t see myself getting so wrapped around the axle over all this. I’m very ready to protect friends and neighbors (trust me; happens a lot where I live). My point is that one must pick their battles and decide how to react case by case.
My point is ...this is how those that do worse things, start. If you cannot see this, I’m clearly wasting my time. You are right.
So tell me, tough guy.....just exactly what do you think you’d have done? Pretend to kick his ass? Shoot him over a dog? Give him a firm tongue-lashing? Call the cops (sure, yeah....they’d be RIGHT over for that, donchaknow).
Give me one, big honkin’ break.
I would have my cell phone with me, set on camera mode before I walked over to him. I would have a VERY determined look on my face (crooks size you up and can tell in a heartbeat if you are weak) and then I would ask him just what he was doing. I would tell him the owner of this house put cameras up to videotape him; because this isn't the first time he's been seen doing this, and it's wrong--and now we have proof. I would take his picture. Then, I would tell him I am going to show this picture I just took, along with the footage the owner has, to the authorities--that his best bet is to leave and never do this again. If all that didn't work; and he chose to threaten me, I would call 911 and tell them this is an emergency call--a man is threatening me with my life.
I guess that's just my way of "fighting like a girl!"
What's wrong is wrong, and if we do not WAKE UP and do something about "wrong" it will only get worse. Which brings me back full circle to: Evil prospers when good men do nothing.
...and that set of actions, noble as it may sound to you, would probably get you hurt. It would be, at best, foolish.
I’m not one to sit back and watch “evil” go un-checked. You don’t know the first thing about me, so you’ll just have to take my word for it.
Protecting other people....hell, even property....I can understand; risking yourself (especially as a woman confronting a potentially, or demonstrably, violent man) over a dog is the WRONG thing to do.
Don’t take my opinion on the last point; go ask a cop in your hometown.
I’m married to one. We will agree to disagree.
Then with all due respect, you should know better. Bet hubby would agree. Ask him.
Amen sister...also your CCW in TX or maybe even open carry would be called for prior to “talking” to the young man....
I like the way you think.
Heh, heh. I grew up in the Grove many moons ago.
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