[MsLady]

I was wondering why my glasses were looking so bad. Would vinegar or borax do the same thing as TSP?

[Free Vulcan]

I haven’t tried either in the dishwasher. I have used borax in the laundry and it does well though not as good as TSP.

[greeneyes]

I have used about 1/2 cup vinegar in the final rinse, and the glassware all comes out looking great. We have hard water, and the new dish washing detergents were all leaving a film.

I have never tried Borax in the dish washer. 20 mule team borax is a wonderful cleaner and deodorizer, so I make a laundry detergent using borax and washing soda, granny's lye soap or castile soap.

20 mule team borax is made in the USA. My castile soap is made in Kentucky, lye soap is made locally. Where ever possible I try to support USA products.

[Freedom4US]

I don’t think so, it won’t touch that, get thee some STPP. The glasswear was horrid, thought something was wrong with the dishwasher.

It came out sparkly clear in just one washadding a heaping teaspoon of STPP. Works great in the laundry too.

TSP works too, but prefer STPP. Both products will degrade over time and exposure to air. A 15 pound container of STPP costs about $50 shipped, but should last a year or so.