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To: PROCON

Shameful!

Not surprised it is Louisiana

There is no rationale for 40 years of solitary. If the LA guards were so pissed at these guys, they should have rather shot them! I am being somewhat sarcastic but truly, there is no rhyme of reason for 40 years in solitary for a single incident.

There is a reason our founders put in the “no cruel or inhumane punishment” clause.

We are not savages like Old Europe or ROP or others. We are civilized.

I believe in justice and the rule of law. Putting someone in solitary for 40 years qualifies as neither.

Things like this (and the TSA and ever more powers to the Police) show how close the United States is coming to becoming a police state


3 posted on 06/06/2011 7:57:05 PM PDT by SoftwareEngineer
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To: SoftwareEngineer
there is no rhyme of reason for 40 years in solitary for a single incident.

That "single incident" was cold-blooded murder!

Capital punishment should have been applied decades ago.

8 posted on 06/06/2011 8:03:13 PM PDT by PROCON (Liberals Mistake Education and Knowledge for Wisdom and Common Sense.)
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To: SoftwareEngineer

40 years is nothing. Back in the good old days Cristian hermits spent many decades by themselves.


14 posted on 06/06/2011 8:08:06 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: SoftwareEngineer

We don’t know the whole story. It may be that these two have done or said things that makes solitary confinement the right thing. Think Hannibal Lecter.


16 posted on 06/06/2011 8:10:09 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Islam is the religion of Satan and Mohammed was his minion.)
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To: SoftwareEngineer

Yeah...but look at it this way....if we we had put democrats in solitary for 40 years think of how much better things would be now.....


20 posted on 06/06/2011 8:12:03 PM PDT by Shamrock-DW
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To: SoftwareEngineer

I agree with you on your, points, but this one:

“Things like this (and the TSA and ever more powers to the Police) show how close the United States is coming to becoming a police state.”

That ship sailed decades ago. With the average person committing 3 Felonies of one type or another, on average, without ever knowing they have, there are far, far, too many laws in our country. There should also be no redundant crimes (Texting while driving, PLUS distracted driving, PLUS reckless endangerment, etc. etc., for one example), this just gives prosecutors leverage to plead down to lesser charges or felonies (which there are way too many of, also) to thwart our criminal justice system.

In any event, I don’t want to get off topic too far. Any time in Solitary (the way now run), beyond a few hours (maybe days, maybe), is cruel and unusual punishment. The criminal justice system is not to punish people, though it is a part (Rehabilitation, Recompense, Deterrent, Safety, and Punishment, are the 5 purposes, if anyone cares). It’s to bring justice, and solitary doesn’t bring that, and certainly not 40 years of it. The people who are involved in this and become the arbiters of this human torture are seldom any better than those who meet “justice” at their hands.


28 posted on 06/06/2011 8:21:59 PM PDT by JDW11235 (I think I got it now!)
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To: SoftwareEngineer
There is a reason our founders put in the “no cruel or inhumane punishment” clause.

Our Founders also practiced capital punishment.
When the crime is murder or worse, "cruel and inhumane (sic)" no longer applies; all bets are off.

The only one morally or ethically entitled to "forgive" such a crime is the victim or the victim's family.

29 posted on 06/06/2011 8:23:00 PM PDT by Publius6961 (you don't need a president-for-life if you've got a bureaucracy-for-life.)
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there is no rhyme of reason for 40 years in solitary for a single incident.

Yeah? you sound like a liberal from SanFran. The man that they murdered - still dead?
Theres the reason, and I see no rhyme why this trash is even breathing.
They should have been executed. - “Single incident” my azz!
BTW, prison guards are not armed.


37 posted on 06/06/2011 8:28:45 PM PDT by bill1952 (Choice is an illusion created between those with power - and those without)
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To: SoftwareEngineer
First, Stop the trash talk about Louisiana after-all your in Texas. The two states have alot in common.

In fact, a quarter of the cars on the LA roads have TX plates. Secondly , Someone from Texas shouldn't be peddling press release BS from some Lefty Wing British Communist organization ! Do you instantly believe this crap ? Consider the source !

38 posted on 06/06/2011 8:30:23 PM PDT by ncalburt (NO MORE WIMPS need to apply to fight the Soros Funded Puppet !)
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To: SoftwareEngineer
There is no rationale for 40 years of solitary. If the LA guards were so pissed at these guys, they should have rather shot them! I am being somewhat sarcastic but truly, there is no rhyme of reason for 40 years in solitary for a single incident.

Hey, even before they killed a prison guard, they weren't the nicest guys around, and it's not like they didn't know the damn rules.

I kinda dig that they've been rotting away in solitary for 40 years. Doesn't seem cruel at all to me.

Hell, they're lucky I'm not their jailer. They would've done the last 40 years in total darkness. Screw them.

55 posted on 06/06/2011 9:35:30 PM PDT by SIDENET ("If that's your best, your best won't do." -Dee Snider)
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