[Swordmaker]

Since the AMs for some reason censored the WWDC keynote presentation listing you all have been waiting for that I usually post, detailing what is included in the updates, we are left with this announcement thread!— Apple Mac OSX Lion, iOS 5, and iCloud announcements—PING!

Apple WWDC announcements Ping!

Please, No Flame Wars!
Discuss technical issues, software, and hardware.
Don't attack people!
Don't respond to the Anti-Apple Thread Trolls!
PLEASE IGNORE THEM!!!

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[PA Engineer]

Do you have any information on how OSX Lion will handle Time Machine and Capsule in regards to “cloud” integration? Thanks.

[TXnMA]

I followed the entire two-hour presentation live on line via the "MacWorld Live Update from WWDC" at http://www.macworld.com/article/160229/2011/06/live_update.html.

You'll need to scroll to the bottom of the comments and work upward to read the comments chronologically -- as published in real time. If you missed it in real time, it is still definitely worth the effort to read it!

For Swordmaker's thread that the prejudiced mod[s] trashed, he went to the trouble of laboriously -- by hand -- reversing the inverted time sequence of the feed for your reading convenience. I don't have that much energy -- especially since some [fill in your favorite pejorative here] might arbitrarily delete it, and waste all my work, too. :-(

So, thanks to "the ????? behind the curtain", you'll have to make do with the link, above...

[conservatism_IS_compassion]

Interesting facts about Lion:

• Availability: July
• Price: $30
• Access: App Store Only - physical disk not available. You buy it, it just installs itself.

Remember when somebody was selling Hackintoshes, and claiming to own OS X because he paid $30 for a Snow Leopard disk? They will have a problem making that argument with Lion!

[kevkrom]

My big question is how all of this iCloud stuff is going to work with multiple users.

For example, on my home iMac, there are three user accounts (my own, my wife's, and our eldest son's) and the computer is authorized with two Apple IDs (my own and my wife's). We can currently share apps, manually, by copying the app file to shared disk and double-clicking them to add to iTunes. All three of us have an iOS device (iPhone 3GS for me and the Mrs., iPod Touch 3G for the eldest) synced to that machine.

Now, with the App Store update as of yesterday, it does appear that I can see my wife's purchases as well as my own, and I was able to copy one of those apps directly to my iPhone, and what's more, using my Apple ID, not hers, to authorize the download.

So it seems that the iCloud might be tied to all devices that sync with each other, not by user or Apple ID.

I note that OS X Lion also has a low-power (CPU/disk only, no monitor or USB) wake on LAN feature for file transfers, etc. -- in conjunction with the iOS wireless sync, I'm curious to see how the sync will work given that each user logs into iTunes separately via their computer account. (Also, in theory, shouldn't the low-power access work in conjunction with being an iTunes client that Apple TV requires to play files from a network disk?)