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To: Winstons Julia

There are roughly 650 laws on the Old Testament. Roman Catholic canon law exceeds 1,700 rules. (It once exceeded 10,000).

As a Catholic you must keep canon law to be saved.

The New Testament teaches salvation by grace though faith - not by the keeping of laws.


36 posted on 06/03/2011 8:01:37 PM PDT by PetroniusMaximus
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To: PetroniusMaximus
As a Catholic you must keep canon law to be saved.

False.

44 posted on 06/03/2011 8:13:34 PM PDT by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: PetroniusMaximus

“As a Catholic you must keep canon law to be saved.”

Really? Sez who?


47 posted on 06/03/2011 8:18:07 PM PDT by narses ("Fallacies do not cease to be fallacies because they become fashions." Chesterton)
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To: PetroniusMaximus

I hope this was said this in ignorance because I hope no one wouldn’t deliberately lie to people to make a point.


54 posted on 06/03/2011 8:29:17 PM PDT by tiki
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To: PetroniusMaximus

You wrote:

“There are roughly 650 laws on the Old Testament.”

Why don’t you enter in the number in the Talmud too?

“Roman Catholic canon law exceeds 1,700 rules. (It once exceeded 10,000).”

No, actually it never contained 10,000.

“As a Catholic you must keep canon law to be saved.”

No. All people are expected to obey the law. If a man steals from the poor box, he has committed theft (violating the Ten Commandments) whether it violates canon law or not.

“The New Testament teaches salvation by grace though faith - not by the keeping of laws”

Ever read John 14 and 15? Did Jesus expect us to keep or violate His commandments?


77 posted on 06/03/2011 8:55:02 PM PDT by vladimir998 (When anti-Catholics can't debate they just make stuff up.)
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To: PetroniusMaximus

One is morally obligated to obey authority (laws). That is not the same as salvation by grace, but Jesus obeyed all the valid laws of his time, religious and civil, and obliges his disciples to do the same. “Render unto Caesar..,” and “do all that they tell you..” Obedience, as Saint Paul says, is not enough, for “If I hand over my body to be burned and have not love, then I am nothing at all.”


102 posted on 06/03/2011 9:43:07 PM PDT by Missouri gal
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