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This journalist seems to have had a bit of trouble finding any actual preachers who shared his own squeamishness, or very many who confuse, as Brock does, the pulpit with the editorial page, but ya gotta give him credit for making a game effort to support his lame thesis.
1 posted on 05/08/2011 3:37:22 PM PDT by Hunton Peck
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To: Hunton Peck

Agreed. If you need to go to quakers to support your anti-war-when-it-suits-you leftism, you’ve not got any kind of case.


3 posted on 05/08/2011 3:40:16 PM PDT by Christian Engineer Mass (25ish Cambridge MA grad student. Many conservative Christians my age out there? __ Click my name)
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To: Hunton Peck

I wouldn’t make the blanket statement that Christians, Jews, (and especially) Muslims were relieved, proud or even jubilant. A lot of Muslims are in their usual state of full blown rage and a lot of Christians and Jews feel guilty about being Chrisitians and Jews and hate to see us act against terrorists. Some may even have genuine, heart-felt objections to taking a life no matter what he did.


4 posted on 05/08/2011 3:42:22 PM PDT by hometoroost (Love the Onion story on a closed-ceremony "transparency" award. Oh wait, that actually happened.)
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To: Hunton Peck

I’m not sure why Bin Laden’s death should be a subject for the pulpit (or ambon). I rather expect to hear preaching about the Gospel or Epistle appointed for the day, or perhaps the saint being commemorated according to the Synaxarion.


6 posted on 05/08/2011 3:44:55 PM PDT by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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To: Hunton Peck

If it is impossible to celebrate the life, then you can celebrate the death.


7 posted on 05/08/2011 3:49:01 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (How is allowing an Army Doctor be prosecuted and sent to prison "good for the country"?)
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To: Hunton Peck

A church that is Not Bible based would have a tough time with capital punishment. Even David beheaded Golliah as punishment. Christ was crucified as though a “guilty” person and took on our sins - the wages of sin is DEATH.

God is at ease with capital punishment and He makes that very clear in the OLD TESTAMENT. It carries forward in the NEW TESTAMENT as well. It is humanisits parading around as “Christians” that have issues with capital punishment.


8 posted on 05/08/2011 3:54:31 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: Hunton Peck

My feelings on the death of OBL can best be described as “grim satisfaction”. I don’t particularly “rejoice” in his death, but do I don’t have problems with anyone who does.

The fact remains that Bin Laden was just one man and will be replaced sooner or later by someone just as fanatical and charismatic. The cancer of Islam will continue to spread. The clash of civilizations is far from over and will not end in our lifetimes.

There is plenty of work still to do.


9 posted on 05/08/2011 3:55:05 PM PDT by Ronin ("A society of sheep must in time beget a government of wolves" -- Bertrand de Jouve)
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To: Hunton Peck

Let the liberal hand wringing commence.

Sheesh.


11 posted on 05/08/2011 3:57:33 PM PDT by mylife
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To: Hunton Peck

Let the liberal hand wringing commence.

Sheesh.


12 posted on 05/08/2011 3:57:43 PM PDT by mylife
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To: Hunton Peck
Seems there are two things to talk about. 
 
Thing One: Whether the killing of OBL was necessary and/or appropriate.
 
Thing Two: Whether "celebrations" in the street were/are appropriate as a response to Thing One.
 
I figure most religious leaders would have little trouble with Thing One, while odds are the response from the pulpit on Thing Two would be more varied.
 
 

14 posted on 05/08/2011 3:59:47 PM PDT by Let_It_Be_So
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To: Hunton Peck

Christianity is not pacifism.


16 posted on 05/08/2011 4:00:30 PM PDT by Persevero (We don't need Superman -- we have the Special Forces)
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To: Hunton Peck
The killing of Osama bin Laden, a man who was America's face of evil for nearly a decade, left Christians, Jews and Muslims relieved, proud or even jubilant.

There were also Muslims who MOURNED the death of Osama Bin Laden and threatened to get revenge some day.

American Pravda needs to learn that lies by omission are lies all the same.

21 posted on 05/08/2011 4:08:22 PM PDT by a fool in paradise ("If Eric Holder had his way, O-B-L would still be alive today." Thank you President Bush for Gitmo.)
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Isaiah 5:16
But the LORD Almighty will be exalted by his justice,
and the holy God will show himself holy by his righteousness.

The mistake is to take credit for God’s justice and rightousness. We cannot match it.

Thank you US Navy Seals for expediting the delivery
of the arrogant fool to God.


24 posted on 05/08/2011 4:16:51 PM PDT by right way right
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When JESUS returns, he will be coming for two main reasons:

http://www.scripturessay.com/article.php?cat=&id=634

“THE PURPOSE OF HIS RETURN
The reason for Jesus’ return is put in very simple terms in the Bible - to reward the righteous and to punish the wicked. In describing the judgment scene, the Lord said: ‘And these (the wicked) shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal” (Matt. 25:46). And Paul, in later years, said that God would “recompense tribulation to them that trouble you,” but that he would give rest to you who are troubled, “when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels, in flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ: who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power” (2 Thess. 1:6:9). “Then shall the wicked be revealed, whom the Lord will consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming” (2 Thess. 2:8). “Henceforth there is laid up for me a crown of righteousness, which the Lord, the righteous Judge, shall give to me at that day: and not to me only, but unto all of them also that love his appearing” (2 tim. 4:8).”

LLS

25 posted on 05/08/2011 4:35:55 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (THANK YOU PRESIDENT BUSH!)
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To: Hunton Peck

My preacher did a masterful job. Let me see if I can paraphrase.

While we do not rejoice in the death of anyone God is just and is happy when justice is served. And Justice was served.


26 posted on 05/08/2011 4:36:13 PM PDT by vg0va3 (I don't plan to quit the fight until it is finally over. Although, I am getting tired...)
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To: Hunton Peck

Not tough at all, if you preach EVIL and HELL.


32 posted on 05/08/2011 5:27:51 PM PDT by bboop (Stealth Tutor)
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To: Hunton Peck
I just thought you might like to read the response I gave to one of my readers concerning this very same article from Arab Propaganda (AP):

Maybe the AP thinks Bin Laden’s death is a tough subject for the pulpit, but not really. The Bible is certainly not silent on the subject:

“When the righteous prosper, the city rejoices; when the wicked perish, there are shouts of joy.” – Proverbs 11:10 (NIV)

Clarke’s Commentaries on the Bible expounds: “When it goeth well – An upright, pious, sensible man is a great blessing to the neighborhood where he resides, by his example, his advice, and his prayers. The considerate prize him on these accounts, and rejoice in his prosperity. But when the wicked perish, who has been a general curse by the contagion of his example and conversation, there is not only no regret expressed for his decease, but a general joy because God has removed him. ”

The Geneva Study Bible says in its commentary on Proverbs 11:10: “The country is blessed, where there are godly men, and they ought to rejoice when the wicked are taken away.”

Revelation 18:20 says: “Rejoice over her, O heaven! Rejoice, saints and apostles and prophets! God has judged her [Babylon] for the way she treated you.”

Clarke’s Commentaries on the Bible has this to say about Revelation 18:20: “Rejoice over her, thou heaven – This is grand and sublime; the fall of this bad city was cause of grief to bad men. But as this city was a persecutor of the godly, and an enemy to the works of God, angels, apostles, and prophets are called to rejoice over her fall. ”

Nope. Nothing tough about that. God is a just God; When God’s justice is meted out on the wicked, the saints rejoice!

Party on, my friends!

Cheers
34 posted on 05/08/2011 5:30:21 PM PDT by DoctorBulldog (A lot of people probably just negated my comment while I was hunting and pecking at the keyboard!)
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The official plan of the U.S. government for the past 10 years has been to do exactly what was done.

IMHO, beenladins killing should come as NO surprise to anyone. It was not a secret desire, it was our #1 target all along, and this was public.

As far as rejoicing, he was an evil, evil man, who was the top leader of an organization that killed almost 3,000 innocent American civilians. He (like Bill Ayers) undoubtedly wished he could have killed more.

His stated intent is not ONLY to kill Americans - his stated intent is the destruction and subjugation of America, which is a declaration of war on the United States, not the threat of a murderer. There are and have been crime syndicates in America, but they never had a stated goal of destroying and subjugating the nation; as such they were criminal organizations. alkada - and any organization with the same intent - is not a criminal organization, but a militaristic one.

So nosama is a military target, not a criminal. And his evil intents are that of a diabolical madman - he truly was an enemy of America.

When one’s enemies are defeated or killed it is cause for rejoicing, exactly they way the free nations of the world rejoiced at the end of WWII and did not feel sorry for the fate of the leaders of our enemies. There is no honor in diabolical leaders, they are not even troubled by the deaths of their own people, so they are not merely an enemy defeated in battle, they are a vile enemy of humanity which needs to be snuffed out as soon as possible.

IMHO, we have something serious thinking to do if we have any qualms about meting out justice to such a man. The main reasons why I was not jumping up and down celebrating is because I’m not prone to, the killing was completely expected (kind of an ok, done, let’s move on), there are many, many people, certainly millions, who also chant “death to America”, etc., so we still have an enormous war going on that we have not so far actually declared war in response to, and we also have el presidente who by all appearances is literally attempting to bankrupt our nation along with his cronies, allies, backers, unwitting accomplices, etc. So please pardon me if I don’t feel particularly celebratory that we have one dead rat to feel good about, I’m certainly happy on the inside and I feel tremendously appreciative of all of the Americans who fought this battle over the past few years.

May God continue to bless America.


37 posted on 05/08/2011 7:47:25 PM PDT by PieterCasparzen (Huguenot)
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To: Hunton Peck

Another applicable scripture- Galations 6:7-8 (NIV)

Do not be deceived: God cannot be mocked. A man reaps what he sows. The one who sows to please his sinful nature, from that nature will reap destruction; the one who sows to please the Spirit, from the Spirit will reap eternal life.


38 posted on 05/08/2011 8:14:35 PM PDT by RatRipper (I'll ride a turtle to work every day before I buy anything from Government Motors.)
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To: Hunton Peck

An amazing admission to what so many of us have witnessed happening to church leaders — they don’t teach or preach, they manage a social gathering and bow to political correctness, so as not to offend.

Evil has no problem offending.

Osama bin Laden was evil.

He is dead.

Good.


39 posted on 05/08/2011 11:53:07 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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