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What Is The Best Place To Live In The United States To Prepare For The Coming Economic Collapse?
The Economic Collapse ^ | 05/04/2011 | Michael Snyder

Posted on 05/04/2011 6:46:38 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

What is the best place to live in the United States? I get asked that question all the time. My answer can be summed up in two words: it depends. The truth is that the answer is going to be different for each person. All of us have different goals and different needs. If you have a very strong network of family and friends where you live right now, you might want to think twice before moving hundreds or thousands of miles away. If you have a great job where you live right now, you might want to hold on to it. You should not just assume that you are going to be able to pick up and move to another part of the country and be able to get a similar job right away. The United States is in the midst of a very serious economic decline right now, and wherever you live you are going to have to provide for your family. Just because you move somewhere new does not mean that you are going to leave your problems behind. In fact, you might find that they moved right along with you. With all that being said, the reality is that there are some places in the U.S. that are going to be much more desirable than others when the economy totally falls apart. For example, during a total economic collapse it will not be good to be living in a large city or in a densely populated area. Just think about what happened in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina. If the entire nation is going through something like that, you don't want to have hundreds of thousands of close neighbors at that point. So when thinking about where you want to be when everything falls apart, population density should be a major factor. But there are other factors as well and no area of the United States is perfect.

If you live in or near a major city right now, that is okay. Most Americans do. Even if you have limited financial resources at the moment, you can start developing a plan that will get you where you eventually want to go. If you want to move to another part of the country you can start applying for jobs out there. You can also be working hard to develop a business that would enable you to move. Perhaps you have friends or family in more isolated areas that would allow you to stay with them during an economic collapse.

Those that possess more financial resources could start thinking about getting a second home in a location that is more rural.

The key is to come up with a plan and to be working towards accomplishing that plan.

If you don't have a plan yet, hopefully the following information will give you something to think about. Not all areas of the United States are equal, and all of them do have problems.

The following are some thoughts about the best place to live in the United States....

The Northeast

A major problem with the Northeast is that it is just so darn crowded. Yes, there are some rural areas, but the overall population density of the region is so high that it would be really hard to go unnoticed for long in the event of a major economic collapse.

Another thing that is not great about the Northeast is that so much of the population lives near the coast. As we saw in Japan recently, living near a coastline is not necessarily a good thing. While it is likely safer to live along the east coast then the west coast, the truth is that there is an inherent level of insecurity when it comes to living in coastal areas. You never know when the next hurricane, oil spill or tsunami is going to strike.

Also, the Northeast is really quite cold. So staying warm and growing your own food would be more difficult than in some other areas of the country.

The Mid-Atlantic

The Mid-Atlantic is one of the most beautiful areas of the nation. Unfortunately, it suffers from many of the same problems that the Northeast does.

The Mid-Atlantic has a very high population density. For example, the area around Washington D.C. is pretty much all suburbs for 50 miles in all directions.

The weather is nicer than in the Northeast and there are some less dense areas once you get south of Washington D.C.

If you think that the Mid-Atlantic might be for you, you might want to check out North Carolina or South Carolina. The people tend to get friendlier the further south you go and there are definitely some areas that could potentially work.

Florida

Florida is generally not going to be a place that you want to be during an economic collapse. The housing market has absolutely collapsed down there and the crime rate is already very high. It is also very densely populated.

The weather is very nice down in Florida, but one big thing that you need to consider when it comes to Florida is the fact that it is very flat and most of Florida is just barely above sea level. In fact, quite a bit of Florida is actually below sea level.

In addition, hurricanes are always a major threat in Florida. It is a beautiful state, but there is a lot of risk to living down there.

The Southeast

The Southeast has really taken a pounding over the last few years. First it was Hurricane Katrina, and then it was the BP oil spill and then it was the tornadoes of 2011.

There is a lot of poverty in that area of the country. There is also a lot of crime.

There are a lot of great people who live down in the Southeast, but if you do not know your way around it can be a very difficult place to move to.

The Mid-South

One of my favorite places east of the Mississippi River are the mountains along the Tennessee/North Carolina border. If you must be in the eastern half of the United States, that is not a bad choice.

Where you do not want to be is anywhere near the New Madrid fault zone. The New Madrid fault zone covers portions of Illinois, Indiana, Missouri, Arkansas, Kentucky, Tennessee and Mississippi. The biggest earthquakes in the history of the United States were caused by the New Madrid fault. Many are convinced that we are going to see an absolutely catastrophic earthquake along the New Madrid fault at some point.

So if you want to live in the Mid-South, it is highly recommended that you stay far away from the New Madrid fault zone.

The Upper Midwest

The Upper Midwest was once one of the great manufacturing regions of the world, but now much of it is known as the "rust belt".

Formerly great manufacturing cities such as Detroit are now absolute hellholes. Tens of thousands of our factories and millions of our jobs have been shipped overseas.

There are some really great people (including some good friends of this column) that live up there, but the truth is that the region is really cold and unemployment is rampant.

The Upper Midwest is an area that people want to get out of. It is probably not a great place to move to.

However, if you do need a job, one place to look is a little bit west of there. Thanks to an abundance of natural resources, unemployment in North Dakota and South Dakota is very low. If you really need a job you might want to look into those two states.

The Southwest

In the Southwest there are a whole lot of freedom-loving Americans, the weather is very warm and there is a lot of space to get lost.

However, the Southwest is also very dry and in many areas there is not a lot of water. Drought and wildfires are quite common.

In addition, illegal immigration is rampant and is a constant security threat.

If you are familiar with that area of the country it is not a bad choice, but if you do not know what you are doing it could end up being disastrous for you.

The Great Plains

As long as you are far enough away from the New Madrid fault, the Great Plains is not a bad choice.

It is very, very flat out there, and it can be quite windy, but the good news is that you should be able to grow your own food.

In addition, the population density is generally very low in most areas.

One big negative, as we have seen recently, is tornadoes. The United States experiences more tornadoes that anywhere else in the world, and "tornado alley" generally gets the worst of it.

The West Coast

During an economic collapse, the West Coast is not a place that you will really want to be. Just take a look at the state of California already. It is an economic nightmare.

Millions of people have left California over the past couple of decades. The millions of people that have left have been replaced mostly with illegal aliens.

Oregon is better, although they have very high taxes and they are experiencing huge economic problems right now as well.

The best area along the West Coast is the Seattle area, but you won't want to be anywhere near a major population center when things totally fall apart.

Also, the West Coast lies along the "Ring of Fire". Considering what just happened in Japan and what has been happening in other areas along the Ring of Fire lately, the West Coast is not an area that a lot of people are recommending.

The Northwest

Large numbers of freedom-loving Americans have been moving to the states of Montana, Idaho and Wyoming. You can also throw eastern Washington and eastern Oregon into this category as well.

It gets cold up in the Northwest, but not as cold as the Upper Midwest. There are lots of rivers, streams and lakes and in certain areas there is plenty of rain.

The population density is very low in most areas and there is an abundance of wildlife. Housing prices are reasonable and in many areas you can grow your own food.

The Northwest is one of the favorite areas of the United States for preppers. It is far from perfect, but it does have a lot of advantages.

Alaska And Hawaii

Neither Alaska or Hawaii is recommended. Alaska lies along the "Ring of Fire" and it is very, very cold. Also, almost everything has to be either shipped or flown into Alaska. In the event of a real economic collapse, supplies to Alaska could be cut off and shortages could develop very quickly.

Hawaii has a huge population and it does not have a lot of room. Like Alaska, most supplies have to be either shipped in or flown in. And one really bad tsunami could pretty much wipe Hawaii out.

But once again, there is no "right answer". There are areas of just about every U.S. state that could potentially work well during a major economic collapse.

When assessing where "the best place to live in the United States" is, it is important to examine your own personal factors. What will work for me and for my family will not necessarily work for you and your family.

So what do all of you think about this list? Which area of the country do you think is best for those Americans who are seeking to prepare themselves for the coming economic collapse?



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To: cripplecreek

I knew there weren’t many people up here, just wasn’t sure of the population. I’ve lived here 12 years, my hubby was raised here and wanted to retire from the military here. Marquette probably has the biggest population in da UP. It’s about 2.5 hours from me. And I think the most liberal county. The rest seem to be pretty conservative over all.


21 posted on 05/04/2011 7:17:18 AM PDT by MsLady (Be the kind of woman that when you get up in the morning, the devil says, "Oh crap, she's UP !!")
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To: SeekAndFind

Anywhere near a lot of farms and forests, where you can get or grow your own vegetables and livestock and hunt for meat, and chop wood for heat and cooking. I live in semi-rural southeastern Pennsylvania. I am investigating buying a windmill and a solar panel for power; it is very windy here though we do not get tornadoes or other very severe weather. I have an acre of land and I can farm all of it if necessary. The folks behind us have three acres and already have chickens and goats.


22 posted on 05/04/2011 7:17:27 AM PDT by Dems_R_Losers (U.S. Out of My Doctor's Office!!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Anywhere near a lot of farms and forests, where you can get or grow your own vegetables and livestock and hunt for meat, and chop wood for heat and cooking. I live in semi-rural southeastern Pennsylvania. I am investigating buying a windmill and a solar panel for power; it is very windy here though we do not get tornadoes or other very severe weather. I have an acre of land and I can farm all of it if necessary. The folks behind us have three acres and already have chickens and goats.


23 posted on 05/04/2011 7:17:40 AM PDT by Dems_R_Losers (U.S. Out of My Doctor's Office!!)
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To: Free Vulcan

People underestimate the effect the great lakes have on Michigan weather. We get some cold but nothing like Minnesota or North Dakota. They also tend to suck the power out of the violent storms of the plains. Its a great climate for producing the right kind of food crops as well.


24 posted on 05/04/2011 7:22:33 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: MsLady

I’ve got my eye on Grand Marais if I ever move to the UP. Its a beautiful small isolated town with a nice harbor on Lake Superior.


25 posted on 05/04/2011 7:25:07 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: lurk

RE: Being a lover of Jesus, I hope to escape to heaven if it gets too bad.

What if Jesus loves you so much, He lets you live pass 100? LOL


26 posted on 05/04/2011 7:27:16 AM PDT by SeekAndFind (u)
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To: cripplecreek
Northern Minnesota is also very similar to rural Michigan. Other than in the Twin Cities, where the Liberals control the entire state by Mob Rule, the rest of the state is very Conservative. People live thrifty and have strong survival skills.

There is no need for air conditioning, food is either in the back yard, next door at the closest cattle farm, or in the woods that is an easy walk away from the house. Winter is cold, but the woods provides heat and economic alternatives to gas and oil. The best part of that cold is, it keeps those warm blooded, weak Southerners down where they belong, grouped together in their urban Socialist sprawl, where they can prey off of each other.

Beef is also 3 times as cheap here than in the grocery store. All you need is a large freezer. 2 or 3 large Whitetail and several geese and ducks, fresh Walleye from Lake of the Woods, (The year around) all adds to the endless bounty and extremely easy and economic living for most all resourceful people who live here. One thing for sure, it quickly weeds out the deadbeats, which is the best reason for living here.

27 posted on 05/04/2011 7:30:46 AM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP (Patriotic by Proxy! (Cause I'm a nutcase and it's someone Else's' fault!....))
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To: MsLady

I’m trying to come up with a way to move to Southern Tenn somewhere from south of Nashville. Was there for a week, came back to Houston and still suffering from the damned smog. My doctor said he’s constantly running allergy panels on his patients and they come back negative. It’s the city polution. I gotta’ get outta’ here! If the planet survives that long.


28 posted on 05/04/2011 7:32:04 AM PDT by Terry Mross (Only a SECOND party will get my vote.)
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To: SeekAndFind
So what do all of you think about this list? Which area of the country do you think is best for those Americans who are seeking to prepare themselves for the coming economic collapse?

I think you and glen beck should get together in the same bunker.

I'll keep my guns loaded {as always} and stay right where I am {Western PA}.

Good water and food for 90 days, thousands of rounds of ammo, multiple guns and knowledge of outdoor survival will give my family an edge for staying OK.

If the Country is still in peril after three months, survival mode will have long since been replaced by predator mode and things that will be occurring are too gruesome to contemplate and certainly can't be posted here.

29 posted on 05/04/2011 7:32:06 AM PDT by USS Alaska (Nuke the terrorist savages.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Texas, plenty of oil, food and guns. And the guts to use them.
30 posted on 05/04/2011 7:33:49 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving politicians more tax money is like giving addicts free drugs to cure their addiction)
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP
People always talk about fleeing to the south but that's where all the criminal elements and leeches will run to as well.

If I leave southern Michigan it will be to head north to a slice of heaven I found.

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31 posted on 05/04/2011 7:35:26 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: SeekAndFind
I find it rather amusing that the Southeast has nothing to offer but poverty, crime and difficulty in getting around. Supposedly this article was concerned with where you could best live when TSHTF. So, the author didn't mention that you can garden year round in the deep south and there is more wildlife to eat than you can shake a stick at. All in all, I'm pretty tickled that he chose to write off the SE.
32 posted on 05/04/2011 7:40:02 AM PDT by JustaDumbBlonde (Don't wish doom on your enemies. Plan it.)
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To: cripplecreek
I do like the UP. I also take trips on the North Shore of Superior in the Fall. (Breathtaking beauty!) But Lake of the Woods is at my back door and I fish a lot for trophy Walleyes, down-rigging, reef drifting, etc. So many exciting things to do at little expense right at one’s finger tips!
33 posted on 05/04/2011 7:42:40 AM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP (Patriotic by Proxy! (Cause I'm a nutcase and it's someone Else's' fault!....))
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To: cripplecreek

Ah, near the WI/MI border. Yea that is a pretty area. We are maybe 3 hours from there.


34 posted on 05/04/2011 7:44:53 AM PDT by MsLady (Be the kind of woman that when you get up in the morning, the devil says, "Oh crap, she's UP !!")
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

I lived in Oceola county Michigan for a while and was surprised at how many people’s primary source of food came from the woods and lakes.

If you can catch your limit of deer, turkey, and salmon, your meat is pretty well taken care of for the year. I went mushroom hunting with a local a few times and filled an S-10 pickup with morels every time we went. (we canned them) That doesn’t even count the other hunting and fishing a person could do let alone raising their own critters and gardening.


35 posted on 05/04/2011 7:52:26 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: SeekAndFind
One point was missed in the summary of the "upper mid-west".

The point of rampant, pervasive, all-encompassing socialism/communism.

I give you the once great, but still communist, socialist, "rust belt" state of Wisconsin whose capital is Mosco....er....Madison....with it's neighboring satellite, Minnesota.

36 posted on 05/04/2011 8:02:25 AM PDT by Logic n' Reason
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

I met Steve Emery some years ago while fishing before his days as a fishing guide. He’s very typical of the kind of people who populate the north.

http://www.fullofhopecharters.com/myguide.html


37 posted on 05/04/2011 8:03:54 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: USS Alaska
Good water and food for 90 days, thousands of rounds of ammo, multiple guns and knowledge of outdoor survival will give my family an edge for staying OK.

I'm kind of wondering what you're going to do when the drone puts a couple of missles "down your smokestack" at 2AM....just curious.

38 posted on 05/04/2011 8:05:00 AM PDT by Logic n' Reason
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To: SeekAndFind; don-o
"One of my favorite places east of the Mississippi River are the mountains along the Tennessee/North Carolina border. If you must be in the eastern half of the United States, that is not a bad choice."

Upper East Tennessee is the best place in the USA. Climate is clement, tectonics are quiet, nice mix of industry, agriculture and wilderness, conservative electorate, and you'll easily find churches with all-day singings and dinner on the grounds.

I'm an immigrant from the Rust/Snow Belt, myself. And come to think of it, I don' really want hordes of other immigrants crowding in here.

Maybe I should lie, and say it's a BAD place, you wouldn't like it, don't come here whatever you do! Shoo! Shoo!

39 posted on 05/04/2011 8:05:12 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Sign over the door of The Scratch Bakery Foodworks, Johnson City TN: "Not for everyone. Welcome.")
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To: Logic n' Reason
The point of rampant, pervasive, all-encompassing socialism/communism.

When the going gets tough, those folks are going to get lost. (Most likely south and west)
40 posted on 05/04/2011 8:15:00 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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