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1 posted on 05/01/2011 6:40:16 PM PDT by ml/nj
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I think Denninger had it right concerning scanning residuals. It's a fake IMO.
2 posted on 05/01/2011 6:44:03 PM PDT by allmost
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3 posted on 05/01/2011 6:46:41 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are at your door! How will you answer the knock?)
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4 posted on 05/01/2011 6:47:18 PM PDT by cowtowney
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Yeah but how much is a gallon of Regular Unleaded at your local gas station? When will your 30 year old college graduate kid get a job and move out of your basement? How much equity have you lost in your home, 401K, and securities since Steve Dunham was crowned King?


5 posted on 05/01/2011 6:47:40 PM PDT by RoadKingSE (How do you know that the light at the end of the tunnel isn't a muzzle flash ?)
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The end of birtherism, rather. Because most people in this country are not paying attention to such analyses, which may discover some quirks in the reproduction, but fail to advance theories why the alleged conspirators would create such weird effects.

My own theory, based on a few decades experience writing and using complex software programs, is that all of this has been created by these software programs which often enough behave quite irrationally. But that’s just me, good luck expecting predictable beahaviour from, oh, let’s say, MS Word.


6 posted on 05/01/2011 6:47:50 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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Similar test:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2713032/posts?page=251#251

What Illustrator’s Links have to tell us:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2713032/posts?page=243#243


7 posted on 05/01/2011 6:49:06 PM PDT by Stingray (Stand for the truth or you'll fall for anything.)
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The first Certificate of live birth was a fraud, so I didn’t expect more from this. I wonder why Odumbo took so long to come up with a fraudulent BC 2. At first I was surprised it was so poorly done, but then I thought this is the kind of thing Odumbo and company wouldn’t want to get too many people in on. They couldn’t go to a crook who is highly skilled in forgeries, not without having him Arkansided afterwards. They couldn’t go to a legitimate document expert to do this, because no one legitimate would do it. ...I don’t think the Odumbo syndicate cares if it is an obvious fraud. It gives the left and Republican intellectuals the opportunity to tell the birthers to give it up. Now they will make fun of anyone who questions it. Trump seems to be moving on.

The age of journalism is dead. Long live the internet.


16 posted on 05/01/2011 7:02:11 PM PDT by pallis
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Another expert has analyzed the document and has concluded it was changed.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2713340/posts


19 posted on 05/01/2011 7:03:02 PM PDT by conservativegramma
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If I zoom up the top page, everything is aliased including the green cross hatch pattern. I don't know why, from your crops, only the form lines and cursive signatures are aliased, and the text is not.

I would expect some anomalies from almost any scan, but how many I'm not sure.

31 posted on 05/01/2011 7:24:14 PM PDT by Aliska
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I think you are proving that the ORIGINAL DOCUMENT was assembled a piece at a time on different typewriters by different people, and that includes a couple of different rubber stamp impressions.

50 years ago we may hypothesize that a document was created using the most commonly used technology of the day.

We may further hypothesize that through the years the document was transformed into a fiche image, and that, in turn, was converted to a digital image, and finally it was sliced, diced, and analyzed in infinite detail to create a new "searchable" digital image.

Today it's resident as part of a database. When somebody wants a "copy" they download the database elements, stick it together, and write it out as a .jpg or some other format, and then print it. Printing invariably requires formatting to fit the capability of the printer.

Just because this document exhibits characteristics beyond what you can imagine doesn't mean it's fake, or that it's not fake. It is what it is.

32 posted on 05/01/2011 7:25:00 PM PDT by muawiyah
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The defenders of the COLB say that the layers have to do with scanners and OCR software arbitrarily separating things into layers. The newsies seem to be happy with that explanation. But, I have been looking for a reason this happens with this COLB. Here is what I have discovered.

Irrefutable proof of cut and paste assembly.

There are three types of text, pre-printed, typewritten, and ink stamped. And, then there are the pre-printed graphics. One would expect that the pre-printed graphics would be the same color as the preprinted text. One would expect the typewritten text somewhat different. And one would expect the ink stamps to be different again, and different from each other.

I have found that most of the pre-printed text matches the typewritten text, instead of the pre-printed graphics. OOPS! Also, The record number that is inkstamped, matches exactly to the typewritten and pre-printed text, EXCEPT for the last “1” which is a different color. So, we are supposed to believe that an ink stamp, or ink pad would make two different colors in one motion? The date accepted stamps are even stranger. The stamp in box 22 has two colors also, the 19 and the 1 at the end are different from the rest of it. The stamp in box 20 has identical digits to the stamp in box 22, but it has two colors also. But, not the same two as in box 22. So, here we are supposed to believe that one ink stamp can print two colors on a single motion, and two different set of two on the next motion.

Some other findings... Stanley’s signature is half one color and half another color. Part of the K in U K L Lee is the wrong color. The check boxes down to 6d are one color and the ones belox are another color. There are at least three different colors of ink in the Doctors check box.

None of the inconstancy is random, not one letter, number or line is partially one color and partially another. Only whole characters are the wrong color.

If you would like to verify what I see, try this. Open the COLB with Photoshop. Select Enhance, Adjust color, replace color. Click on one of the triangles next to the signatures and replace that color with something bright and distinctive. Take a look at what portions of the doc are still black. Repeat this procedure to replace the colors of various parts of the COLB with an assortment of distinctive colors. When you get to a point where there are no more black caricatures, you are ready to analyze the results. What this process does is emphasize the subtle differences in the printed colors.

You will notice that there are numerous. You will see that I have not begun to cover them all here.


34 posted on 05/01/2011 7:27:53 PM PDT by California VWRC Member
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I can’t get over the last “1” in the string of digits “10641”.. it’s like it is preprinted on the form and the string “1064” was pasted on the form (at a slight angle). That’s all I need to say “Fake!” Or more likely as some suggest.. there was a string of digits “1064X” and the “1” replaced the “X” but the software could not match the slight angle of the “1064X” string.


46 posted on 05/01/2011 8:28:43 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: ml/nj

You are correct.

I pointed this out earlier, when another Freeper saw what you saw.

The (stupid) response I got was that the scanner COULD (against everything I know in 20 years of tech experience) scan B/W and greyscale at the same time, or even multiple resolutions!!!

Of course this is not so.

The resolution, at the very least, would be constant across all parts of the doc. Assuming it was one image.

You are correct.

We have to push the issue for weeks for anyone to care.


58 posted on 05/02/2011 7:05:34 AM PDT by EvasiveManuever (Shakespeare got it wrong. Not the lawyers... journalists.)
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The question is - what is the Obama administration trying to accomplish? If they wanted to truly put an end to the controversy, they would have posted a simple photo or scanned image of their fake document. They must have a reason for publishing it in a form where anyone with the most basic computer skills can quickly establish that it's fake.

Is it to keep the Eligibility Questioners (or "EQ"s - my preferred term) focused on the place of birth, to the exclusion of the requirement that both parents be citizens?

Is it to keep the EQs aligned with Trump, so as to encourage a third-party run?

Do they just want to continue, with the assistance of the MSM, flagging EQs as tin-foil hat wearing loonies, in the hope of scaring Independents off? Or are they just so arrogant and contemptuous of Congress & the MSM, that they saw no need to be careful? (After all, most of the MSM still believes the Texas ANG memos were authentic.)

66 posted on 05/02/2011 10:43:35 AM PDT by NJ_Tom (Who ever thought that Kenya would be the next nuclear power?)
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I need your help.

Whats your opinion of this blog article:

http://obamasgarden.wordpress.com/2011/05/02/the-odds-are-racist/

I have already tried to post this as a new thread and failed due to the blocked source. Wordpress.com is blocked I think.

Are the pixel duplications present in all versions of the document??


69 posted on 05/02/2011 1:21:32 PM PDT by Exmil_UK
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