[Vermont Lt]

You are kidding right?

Its dead. Move on to something else. You are not going to win.

[rovenstinez]

Yeah, there is a LOT of stuff he could have dug up to prove his birth. What papers did he submit to get a US Passport. For those of us in foreign countries, we have to go through rigorous ordeals getting an APOSTILLE seal from the State Dept, and it has to have seals, ribbons, and a brass grommet with forensic experts who examine it and stamp it. He didn’t prove anything, this is the same jpg file he always showed..on the WH website. I want to see MORE>

[47samurai]

Give it a rest.
Your argument does not even approach the minimum standards of coherence. Many of our past presidents: Van Buren, Buchanan, Arthur, Wilson, Hoover, and of course Obama, all had at least one foreign born parent. Besides, under our Constitution, The House of Representatives is the final certifying body to an election, and, in each case, their word is final. The House did vote to make each of these men president, thereby giving their final stamp of approval as to the legitimacy of the election. So, regardless of your complaints, BO IS our president.

You see, even if you were somehow able to PROVE, (which you cannot) that BO was born in Kenya, it would not change the fact the the House certified the election. He WILL be the Prez until at least Jan 20, 2013.

Give it a rest and concentrate on how to remove a Marxist from the Whitehouse.

[forgotten man]

When I applied for my passport I was told that I needed a certified birth certificate with a raised seal. I got it from Los Angeles County and you can feel the official seal.

[jwparkerjr]

IIRC from seeing the image a couple of times yesterday I don't think there is any wording anywhere on the document that states it's an official document. The one they used for comparison said across the bottom that was an official document. There was nothing along the lower border of the Obama document.

I could be wrong, I didn't spend a lot time looking at it. But I did notice how much of the typed text on the Obama document was centered, as though it had been done with a word processor. On the other one the fields that were perfectly centered on the Obama document were left justified, as you would expect it be when typed by hand.

Just my casual observations!

[Gandalf_The_Gray]

How is it that the "original" long form birth certificate recently issued by the White House has no State Seal anywhere on the image ?

Yesterday I posted an image of a contemporary Hawaiian COLB (July 1961) as a copy made in 1965. The image was a "photostat" which oldsters will recognize as it appears as a photographic negative. (prior to widespread use of copy machines, copies of "official" documents were made using a large view camera with a finite conjugate ratio copy lens to take a 1:1 magnification of the document on photographic paper). The image I posted followed the same format of the Obama copy with the exception that it did indeed show an embossed seal intersecting both signature and date of copy. It appeared to be a separate document which was placed in the frame of the COLB image to signify the overall image as a "True Copy".

Obama's COLB appears to have been copied (scanned) from a bound book (curved lines on the left margin) into a "PDF" format of more then a few layers with differing elements of the document appearing on different layers. The section at the bottom appears to be typed directly on to the safety paper and the signature was applied with a stamp. There is no seal of any type applied as on the older documents from 1965.

Regards,
GtG

[GeronL]

It could have been written on the back of a napkin and the MSM would report it as a true BC. lol

[AppyPappy]

If it is a digital copy, there are embedded seals that you cannot see.

[jjotto]

I recently had to get a copy of my state-issued COLB (this is accepted for DL and passport). I was surprised that it did NOT have an embossed seal. It is instead on what is called ‘security’ paper with ornate border and printed seals. The only added stamps are the date and some kind of serial number.

My older county-issued ‘Certificate of Birth Registration’ with an embossed seal is no longer accepted!

[Political Junkie Too]

There is one simple way for Obama to verify the authenticity of the birth certificate.

One can argue that Obama has waived his right to privacy by releasing this information. If so, then we should do the following:

1) Publicly ask Obama to waive access to the information, since he has already publicly released it.

2) People can now request uncertified copies from the Hawaii Department of Health, now that the document has been made public (let's see if the office can reproduce the document).

3) The hospital no longer can hide behind the excuse of privacy because hospital information (including the doctor) has been released by Obama. They should now release corroborating information, such as shift reports or billing records.

If the document is real, the Hawaii Dept. of Health should have no problem turning out additional copies to those who pay the fee for one, now that it is public domain knowledge.

-PJ

[Amadeo]

There is no embossed seal, which you would expect, but Alvin T. Onaka did certify it in this way at the bottom of the pdf:

I certify this is a true copy or ABSTRACT OF THE RECORD ON FILE in the Hawaii State Department of Health. (caps added)

Looks like it is an abstract and not a true copy. If this is the case, Obama has made a BIG mistake releasing it. The public needs to see a true copy and only a true copy will suffice.

I have to agree with others, though, that the Constitutional issue of his not being an NBC should be the focus of any investigation, with these other important issues accompanying.