Why the Obama Birth Certificate is a Bust

4/27/11 | HMV

[aquila48]

There is no way on earth that the last “1” in the birth certificate number wasn’t doctored! I challenge you to take any document, scan it any way you want and produce the same effect without screwing around with the document with some image processing app like photoshop.

[Sprite518]

FIRST BEFORE WE DIVE INTO QUESTIONS ABOUT THE DOCUMENTS.

QUESTION: Why would Obama hold back this document for over 2 years? There were many law suits and a lot of money was spent. Moreover, there are military personal in prison over this?

BTW, I am having a real difficult time believing that you printed the document, scanned it and that you are still getting all the layers? I’m sorry, but I don’t believe that.

What he did with the picture, with the arrows, does not prove a thing. We do that at work with documents all the time. I’m sorry, but I’m just not going to take your word for it.

Another point to is when you break down the layers (there are AT LEAST 50! We are not talking 2 or three here... At any rate, how come the document assembles perfectly piece by piece.... I’m sorry but that is the smoking gun.

Okay here we go,

You said the AP

“has a picture of a different physical copy”

Question: Who gave the AP their copy and why did it not come from the White House?

You said,

“the AP is using a completely different process.”

Question: Okay what process are they using that will allow no layers?

Follow Up Question: Okay so you mean to tell me that the AP got their “copy” of the long form Birch Certificate from some where other than the White House?

Question: Why were they allowed this and can you prove this?

Question: If yes the AP got it from some where other than the White House, then why is are there no layers in the AP copy?

Question: If the AP got it from the White House, then how come their copy does not have layers, but the White House and your copy does?

[Sprite518]

““What’s plausible is that somewhere along the way — from the scanning device to the PDF-creation software, both of which can perform OCR (optical character recognition) — these partial/pseudo-text images were created and saved”

Over 50 times and assembles piece by piece with EACH layer???

Are you kidding me?

[Fred Nerks]

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2702976/posts?page=1566#1566

[Sprite518]

Thanks same here!

I’m just not buying what the public is being told. Every radar is going off saying it’s bogus. I don’t like this, but hey this is Obama’s fault not coming out with this sooner.

[Vendome]

MuBarak is an idiot to have released this “Copy of Date Points” on a Wednesday!

What moron doesn’t know that if you want a story to die you release it over the weekend or on a holiday?

Further, it may have been enough to convince Lieutenant Lakin to continue following orders of deployment as he had done so many times, honorably, as a decorated veteran would do and does.

But no... He let an honorable man hang in the wind, under a cloud of doubt and ruin his career and life. For What?

This settles nothing and I want to see the one he found among his mother’s belongings when she passed in 1995, as well the one that is sealed in his admissions for kindergarten and preschool.

Barak, if this settles it for you then you screwed a fine man and you should be ashamed!

You have no honor.

[Vendome]

This whole BC thing is a put up.  A Fairy Tail!

 

It's a slight of hand and there is no reason to have not put an original copy of his Long Form Birth Certificate out there in the 1st place.

 

But, think of it.  There are three that are known to exist or have existed and has at least two in his possessoin:

 

• The Birth Certificate that was submitted for his admission into the Hawaiian school system.  The files containing that BC and his records for immunization are sealed by court order on MuBarak's requrest.

 

• "If" he used an American Passport for travel to Indonesia and Pakistan, when he turned 18, he would have a copy of his birth certificate from that event.

 

• He absolutely has a Birth Certificate, in it's original black & white format, that "He Found" Among His Mother's belongings, when she passed in 1995.

 

• A friend just reminded me that one gets married they are required to present a Long Form Birth Certificate!!!  NO KIDDING!??  I had completely overlooked that!!!

 

• I do wonder if he had to submit another BC when he returned back to the Hawaii school system to re-enter school???

 

 

 

Let them claim there is no long form.

 

1st.  They and everyone has said all along the COLB is an abstract.  A COLB is a walkup document, meaning you can walk up to the desk, ask for your BC and they will provide an abstract, called a COLB in about 10 minutes.  That means there is a long form and Hawaii statutes, starting at (318)

 

2nd.  Hawaii already said they have seen Barry O.'s vital records and issued two statements - blah, blah, blah, right?

 

3rd.  Barry O. never had to show his long form BC ever, in his life, for anything?  Like obtaining a passport.  That one document is better than a drivers license.  It saying to the world you are who is contained in the passport document, which is based on an investigation of your background and YOU MUST provide a Birth Certificate as foundational proof of who YOU say you are.  From there the State Department does their background check on you and if you are who you say you are with no ammendments, modifications or whatever to your identity they issue it clean. 

 

Most adults can go to a desk or filing cabinet in his house and produce a birth certificate in a few minutes?

 

Barry O. tried to pass of something that was inconsistent with what the rest of have and know to be a “Birth Certificate”.

The so called COLB has many flaws with it:

• His father’s race could never have been listed as “African”.  That was not the nomenclature at all, in the 1960’s.  So that begins the suspicion of a fraudulent document.
•  The COLB is also cropped in many of the pictures that claim it is a scan.  If it is a scan, why not leave the document and size intact?
• The COLB also has no artifacts such paper folds.  A scan does not make those disappear and in fact will highlight them.
• The COLB that is scanned mysteriously does not show the Seal of Hawaii.  Why?  Because it was computer generated and not scanned.  Guess they forgot to add that back in.
• More over, many of us are concerned and want to know why he wasted time producing a document that is inconsistent with what we know a Birth Certificate looks like.

 The best part and even more confusing is why he didn't release any of the three Birth Certificates we know already existed before 2007.

• His kindergarten records and the BC, that should be there, have mysteriously disappeared.
• The BC he used to get into college, apply for loans and most definitely used for his passport. That wasn't available?
• Why couldn't he just present the one he found among his mother's belongings upon her death.   He waxed on and wondered about it and his father in one of his books.  Why not post that one?

Those were most certainly BC’s and not a COLB. There is no reason to create confusion but, for the fact he is hiding something. That something will be discovered, though and this is a long process.

“I discovered this article, folded away among my birth certificate and old vaccination forms, when I was in high school. It’s a short piece, with a photograph of him. No mention is made of my mother or me, and I’m left to wonder whether the omission was intentional on my father’s part, in anticipation of his long departure. Perhaps the reporter failed to ask personal questions, intimidated by my father’s imperious manner; or perhaps it was an editorial decision, not part of the simple story that they were looking for. I wonder, too, whether the omission caused a fight between my parents.”

From “Dreams From My Father” (Pg. 26 last paragraph)

So with all these Birth Certificates lying around, why did he feel it necessary to produce a "Certification of Live Birth" that is inconsistent with a Birth Certificate and wholly lacking all of the information you would find, in you know, a Birth Certificate?

He seemed to have some emotional attachment to the Birth Certificate found among his mother’s belongings.  Why wouldn’t he just slap that one up, for all the world to see?

It seemed important that he found a document that is called a “Birth Certificate” and it is highly unlikely he would not know what one looks like.

Hope no one brings up some house fire that vaporized his BC.  That was in 1972 and none of the documents listed here would have been affected by that “fishy” event.

 

The point of the birth certificate is to uncover this man's past for it's factual existence and not the narrative we have been told.

 

We want to know if he ever traveled, went to school in America, obtained loans, etc in another name or as a foreign student or as a foreigner!!!!

 

That is what we are after at a minimum.

 

Finally, there can be no doubt Barak was in fact born with a divided citizenship.  He proudly admits as much.

 

That means if we were conscripted by draft into the United States Military during a conflict, when he was 18, he could have avoided the draft by simply returning to another country of his citizenship.  We know and he admits he was a citizen of Kenya at the age of 18 so he could have returned with no penalty, to Kenya and not even I would call him a draft dodger if had under those circumstances.

 

You are wholly one thing or another but not two distinctly different and separate things that conflict with each other's existence.

 

He was born with a divided allegiance and is "Not a Natural Born Citizen".  Might be a citizen but, he ain't a Natural Born Citizen.

[butterdezillion]

But these are 3 days apart, and the “date filed” is when the BC# was given.

So the office worker gets a pile of BC’s for the day. They stamp them all with a number and then they stamp them with the date. That’s Aug 8.

The next day they get a new pile, give them all a number, and stamp them all with “date filed” of Aug 9.

The next day they get a new pile, give them all a number, and stamp them all with “date filed” of Aug 10.

The next day they get a new pile, give them all a number, and stamp them all with “date filed” of Aug 11.

Now tell me how in that process you’d get somebody with an Aug 8 stamp with a higher number than somebody with an Aug 11 stamp.

This is the process Janice Okubo said they have. The “date filed” is the same date that the number is given. When the number is given, the “date filed” is given. If they don’t get to some of the BC’s in the pile that day they could conceivably spill over into the next day as you say, but they don’t put a “date filed” on them until the day they actually give them a number.

[snowsislander]

BTTT. Your analysis exactly accords with my own.

[butterdezillion]

I guarantee that’s not how it happened. The white copy is definitely not a copy of the green copy. There’s stuff on the white copy that isn’t on the green copy. When I’m done sorting it out I’ll explain.

And it’s highly unlikely that the white copy came from the HDOH. Again, I’ll explain when I’m done sorting it out but there are features on the white copy that don’t seem like they would have come from the HDOH office.

[Squeeky]

I don’t think the issue is dead. But it sure is sleeping. I think we should spend our time checking out the document and if it is real, and jump on the “WHY did Obama take 3 years to solve a $10 Birth certificate question” bandwagon.

I am keeping The Birther Think Tank open, but we have to be careful or we will get called names that will stick. We won and the rascal had to cough it up.

[Stingray]

"...seemingly derived from an OCR process that treats some portions of the document as images and some as characters."

I pulled the White House version (PDF file) into Adobe Illustrator and there are no OCR elements to the page.

OCR generates ASCII text. Every bit of text in that document exists as bit-mapped images, consistent with a document scan.

What appears to me is that the black & white document was scanned as a 1-bit (b&w) bitmap, then overlaid onto a scanned 8-bit color background.

Now here's where they screwed up: the original green sheet scanned in color actually does have a few letters that came across with the rest of the background in that scan, but it looks like someone used PhotoShop to mask out other parts of the text from the color scan, then they simply lined the 1-bit bitmap up on the 8-bit color background in Illustrator and overlaid it.

There are several obvious giveaways here:

The first is the difference in contrast and alignment of the trailing "1" in the 10641 numeric sequence in the upper right. It is pixelated, has lower contrast, features compression artifacts, and is consistent with a heavily compressed JPG image scan.

Most importantly, however, is that the trailing 1 shows clear evidence of "anti-aliasing" which is used in image editing applications to smooth out the "stair-stepping" in diagonal lines (computer pixels are square and when forced along a diagonal or around a curve, you get aliasing: the "stair-stepping" effect you can clearly see in the numbers preceding the final "1".)

Furthermore, with the issue of anti-aliasing ("AA")fresh in mind, look closely at the green background surrounding the aliased numbers: a single scanned image would produce consistent aliasing throughout the entire image, yet the green background shows AA while the numbers do not. This is consistent with a second, aliased scan overlaid on the background.

One more thing: in a document scanned once and saved as a JPG, you would see the same compression artifacts ("mosquito noise") around all the letters, and there would be no separation of the green background from the black letters (as seen in the trailing 1.) Yet in this doctored document, you see a clearly defined white border around all the other numbers, consistent with someone "masking out" whatever was in the original color background scan and overlaying it with the 1-bit aliased b&w document, where the white was selected and deleted, leaving only the black text to "key" over the background.

In short, this is - to my trained eye anyway - a really poorly done composite of one or more different scans cut and pasted together. It's so badly done, anyone with any document scanning and treating experience would have picked up on it right away. The Illustrator layers simply confirm it.

If this is a forgery, it's so bad that it can't be taken seriously as such. So then, why bother going to all this trouble at all, especially posting something they knew would be discovered to be a sham?

My guess? The idiots running this country right now are really this arrogant to believe that something like this was going to fool anybody. Combined with what we know is their monumental stupidity and unprecedented incompetence, and you can see why we're in the trouble we are right now.

[Stingray]

“I worked a lot on scanners myself (QC for a scanner manufacturer) and there’s no question in my mind that the last “1” in the birth certificate number was added digitally.”

Actually, I believe the opposite to be true: the last “1” is part of the scanned green background, and the other numbers - scanned as a 1-bit TIF or BMP - were cut out of their white background and overlaid onto the green background.

I could demonstrate the process, but its too late now...need sleep. :)

The giveaway is the compression noise around that 1 and the anti-aliasing of the 1 consistent throughout that entire green background. There’s no anti-aliasing applied to the other numbers or letters.

[WOSG]

Look, you don’t know what happened, I explained what happened and now you argue against that without having an explanation.
You are sooooo invested in the bogus birther theory you cant let go of it.

“Wait til I rationalize this away...”

There is 100% certainty that a physical document was delivered by Hawaii DOH to the Obama lawyer on 4-25-2011 that is what was scanned and represented and shared with the media. Obama was born in Hawaii, case closed.

[TenthAmendmentChampion]

Why is there shading on the left side of the form? Watch this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aeSzXcv3nXk At 1:30, the shading that makes the form look like a page from a photocopied book, disappears with the safety paper layer – it was photoshopped into the bottom layer. The form doesn’t have shading – it’s not part of the “scan” from the original document. Shading is a standard tool, I’ve used it to simulate a book pages using less sophisticated tools than Illustrator or Photoshop. Most of the news outlets posted the image cropped down to the edges of the form, so the shading looked more realistic. But when you see the whole page and watch the layers being moved or rendered invisible, the shading is right there in the middle of the page for no reason. In this video, the narrator shows how the “typed” characters and even the supposedly pre-printed form lines and words do not have the chromatic gradation you get from scanning documents in color. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPX33ZNdmlo The B&W form image(s) were layered over the green safety paper, which in my opinion makes it look even phonier. My BC is in reverse print, white on black, with a raised seal from the State of Illinois, as retrieved from microfiche in the 1970s when needed it to get married. I had a photocopy of it in 2006 when I tried to get a drivers license in California - the examiner rejected it and demanded an original. I never did get a DL... I still have my old Arizona license which I now use because I left CA last year and returned to AZ.

[Kenny Bunk]

Being of a deviously trained mind, I suspect a trap here.

One document appears real, the other made up. In reality, there's a good chance that both are made up. However, by focusing the rubes' attention on the fairly obvious fake, they can then more easily establish the authenticity of the other fake.

Not much will be required to do that.

"After all, how much darned proof do you racists need?"

Prediction from the best Somali Conjure-Woman in Maine:
The Mombasa Moonbeam will pardon and re-instate Lt. Col. Lakin. "After all, good men can disagree ... and the Col's head was turned by those crazy Birthers."
Be a hell of campaign move!

[driftless2]

"conspiracy"

You are, of course, correct. But fanatics are not stopped by mere facts. There is their own inner workings that makes them go on with their conspiracy belief. It was predicted that when Obama finally released his long form, the true believers-conspiracists would just plod on. Like the truthers who had their bubble burst by a documentary on ABC (?), they refuse to believe. Their whole psyche would explode if they couldn't go on with the conspiracy beliefs.

[Kenny Bunk]

A treading lightly agree-witch-choose ping.

[TenthAmendmentChampion]

Once more with paragraphs.

Why is there shading on the left side of the form? Watch this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aeSzXcv3nXk

At 1:30, the shading that makes the form look like a page from a photocopied book, disappears with the safety paper layer – it was photoshopped into the bottom layer. The form doesn’t have shading – it’s not part of the “scan” from the original document. Shading is a standard tool, I’ve used it to simulate a book pages using less sophisticated tools than Illustrator or Photoshop.

Most of the news outlets posted the image cropped down to the edges of the form, so the shading looked more realistic. But when you see the whole page and watch the layers being moved or rendered invisible, the shading is right there in the middle of the page for no reason.

In this video, the narrator shows how the “typed” characters and even the supposedly pre-printed form lines and words do not have the chromatic gradation you get from scanning documents in color.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPX33ZNdmlo

The B&W form image(s) were layered over the green safety paper, which in my opinion makes it look even phonier. My BC is in reverse print, white on black, with a raised seal from the State of Illinois, as retrieved from microfiche in the 1970s when needed it to get married. I had a photocopy of it in 2006 when I tried to get a drivers license in California - the examiner rejected it and demanded an original. I never did get a DL... I still have my old Arizona license which I now use because I left CA last year and returned to AZ.

[mom.mom]

Just to add to the numbering controversy: according to Jerome Corsi, the numbers were assigned by HDOH (Honolulu office was the only place numbers were assigned) and were stamped with a stamper that automatically advanced 1 digit. Obama's BC was registered August 8th and the Nordyke twins, Aug 11th.