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Is the Birth Cert issue actually hurting Repubs or are the consequences just too great to imagine?
04/14/2011 | TMMT

Posted on 04/15/2011 1:04:11 PM PDT by The Magical Mischief Tour

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41 posted on 04/15/2011 2:25:09 PM PDT by bigjoesaddle ("Freedom prospers when religion is vibrant and the rule of law under God is acknowledged". - Reagan)
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To: DiogenesLamp
I have no doubt that much of the motivation by those in the conservative movement that disparage the eligibility issue is the result of fear. It is as you say. A widespread fear of civil unrest that motivates them to denounce the issue because they really don’t want to face the consequences of unseating him.

This is really starting to make sense to me. What else could they threaten the likes of Rush, Fox News, etc...with to get them to ignore the issue? Same reason the Supreme Court won't touch it. You will be responsible for the riots and the deaths.

So the plan is just to let him run amuck because we don't want riots? Screw that!

This nation will go up in flames either way. I say bring on the riots. Unseat the bastard!

42 posted on 04/15/2011 2:34:55 PM PDT by Envisioning ( Call me a racist................, one more time......................)
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This single issue has moved Donald Trump from a non-issue to a political front-runner in a matter of weeks ... and the Republicans are concerned the issue hurts them?!? MENTAL MIDGETS. You have a gold mine in front of you. Start digging. Yes, if you play the same stupid game the Democrats do and lie, obscure, and evade the issue, it *will* hurt you. You deserve to be hurt because you are too stupid not to be hurt. If you capitalize on it by demanding adherence to Constitutional standards, like a patriotic citizen, you will receive rewards for it the likes of which the Donald is enjoying. MORE so if, unlike the Donald, you are a true conservative capitalizing on it. Don't be so dense, Republicans! The writing is on the wall and Donald Trump is shrewd enough to read it. Learn something here.


43 posted on 04/15/2011 2:40:39 PM PDT by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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IF, IF, IF, IF the entire left and “right” wing Ruling Class knows or suspects strongly that Obama is a fraud and was always ineligible, and they are COVERING IT UP to protect us from crisis,

THEN I HATE THEM ALL.

What scum. This country is supposed to be run by the people, for the people. Not by the royalty for the royalty. We can handle it. G-d made all of us, not just the elites in DC. Plenty of us have dealt with worse than a lousy Commie usurper as President. We have lost children; we have lost loved ones; we have been hit with illness and injury; we have lost jobs, homes, and health. We can FORGETTING* handle it if our President needs to be removed.

Personally, I don’t think that’s it. I think that the libs are covering for him because they wanted his “change” so badly, the GOP are afraid to stand for ANYTHING with meaining, and the conservative media has been threatened with livelihoods and worse. Maybe Soros has one of Beck’s kids and one of Rush’s cats in his basement.

*see Green, Cee Lo


44 posted on 04/15/2011 2:43:30 PM PDT by Yaelle
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If anyone can point to any evidence that the Birther Initiative is hurting the GOP’s chances in 2102 please point them out. I have seen none. Just the spoutings from Rove, Coulter, Beck, O’Reilly and company trying to convince me that it’s true.

They are failing to do so.


45 posted on 04/15/2011 2:45:50 PM PDT by InterceptPoint
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What do you think that the consequences would be, other than the constitutional rule of law being preserved, that is?


46 posted on 04/15/2011 2:52:02 PM PDT by AmericanVictory (Should we be more like them or they more like we used to be?)
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To: marstegreg

When McLame was the candidate, he called the shots. He does not care about citizenship - he is an open border globalist. He beleives that anyone against open borders is a Nationalist; a racist. He has accused people in his own state, who have been seriously abused by open borders as being racist for objecting (until the last election).

The idea of questioning Obama about his citizenship, infuriated McThing. The “racists” in the party were threatening to have a voice in McIdiot’s election. So his reactive insanity came about and he demanded, in great indignant fury, that the GOP supress the questions about bammy’s foreign origin. Being that he was the leader at the time and given Rinos (GOP) are severly affected by race baiting, everyone went on a campaign led by McInsane to shut down questions during the election. In addition, there are questions about McLame’s qualification given he was born overseas and he wants the whole subject of constitutional qualification gone!

Now a fraud has been committed by both parties. Everyone knows they have a Kenyan in office. They are concerned about keeping all their asses out from under the umbrella of treason.

That is what this is about.


47 posted on 04/15/2011 2:52:28 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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The establishment Republicans know that when the Regime goes down, it won't be quietly. They will be going Nuclear Alinsky, and looking desperately for Targets to Freeze and destroy.

None of them want to be the Alinsky Target. So not only do none of the mice want to bell the cat, and they all want to be on record that they had nothing to do with the idea of belling the cat.

48 posted on 04/15/2011 2:53:21 PM PDT by Plutarch
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To: Envisioning
Same reason the Supreme Court won't touch it.

Okay, I agree.

I say bring on the riots. Unseat the bastard!

Please, without flaming, exactly how do you think that's going to happen?? By what mechanism is the birther argument going to result in him getting unseated?

You've already said the Supreme Court won't touch it, and I agree. So if the courts won't do it, that means to remove him legally, you'd need impeachment. That means a majority of the House and 2/3 of the Senate. But that's not going to happen either.

So the only other way to get unseat him is to vote him out in the next election. I want the socialist creep out as much as anyone else, but I simply do not see how this particular argument is going to convince otherwise undecided people to vote for someone else next November. It's an argument that seems to appeal almost exclusively to people who already dislike the guy. Seriously, can you imagine someone thinking "you know, I like what he's done and think he'd be better than the Republican, but I just can't get passed the birth issue."

I'm sorry, but I don't know anyone like that.

49 posted on 04/15/2011 2:54:00 PM PDT by Bruce Campbells Chin
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America survived the assassinations of Lincoln and Kennedy.

Obama leaving the office in disgrace like Nixon did would hardly rise to the level of a fart in a high wind.

50 posted on 04/15/2011 2:58:58 PM PDT by Big Bronson
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This country would collapse.

Not at all. There would be senate hearings on television, and the media would be apoplectic for about a week. Then, rather than sending zerO to prison for identity theft, he'd resign and while all this was going on, the American People would still be getting up, going to work, and watching reruns of American Idol.

The collapse you seek is coming courtesy of the inescapable logic of a fiat currency.

51 posted on 04/15/2011 3:04:43 PM PDT by Big Bronson
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Please, without flaming, exactly how do you think that's going to happen?? By what mechanism is the birther argument going to result in him getting unseated?

It was more of rhetorical statement and venting.

None of the political elite have any intention of actually doing anything about it.

It will be up the people one way or the other.

52 posted on 04/15/2011 3:05:29 PM PDT by Envisioning ( Call me a racist................, one more time......................)
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Even if it does not unseat him it will slow down the destruction of the country.
53 posted on 04/15/2011 3:10:45 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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"Were talking about a conspiracy that if true, would literally wipe out the majority of our sitting government."

And your problem with that is....?

54 posted on 04/15/2011 3:14:35 PM PDT by Radix ("..Democrats are holding a meeting today to decide whether to overturn the results of the election.")
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And your problem with that is....?

Specifically?

I've been to places like Somalia, while SHTF events make for good fantasy I have seen them first hand, want no part of that here...

55 posted on 04/15/2011 3:23:44 PM PDT by The Magical Mischief Tour (With The Resistance...)
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Right again. Just yesterday Nancy Pelousy was pontificating about the fact that there wasn’t much of a difference between Dems and Repubs and then the Tea Party messed it up. She actually went on to say “elections shouldn’t matter” (WHAT?????). I guess the political elite just got a little too used to the cushy life we paid for while they worked against stupid old us. No more!


56 posted on 04/15/2011 3:27:59 PM PDT by marstegreg
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In communist countries there is only one party and I am not pulling punches anymore - the DNC is communist. With the Rinos and the DNC, things were looking very communist and peaceful. Minor disagreements on how to arrive at the same point.

Then the tea party came along and wrecked the bi-partisan thing Rinos had going on with Nazi Pelosi.


57 posted on 04/15/2011 3:43:04 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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Would collapse? What the hell do you think it’s doing right now?

Norm, I think you’d enjoy this thread.

This new talking point (well, not really new, just being dragged out for a re-run) is really making the rounds on FR.

“Oh no! If he’s proved ineligible there’ll be (shudder) RIOTS! And ruination! It would hurt the country and “our” party!”

They’re all getting the vapors. I wonder why.....


58 posted on 04/15/2011 3:44:37 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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Maybe the “why” has something to do with this:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2705528/posts

Donald Trump Is Going To Make A MAJOR Announcement Tonight At 7:30


59 posted on 04/15/2011 3:46:23 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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Save the republic?

You’re out of your mind.

They’re helping to destroy it.


60 posted on 04/15/2011 3:49:00 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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