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Atlas Shrugged (1 star)
www.rogerebert.com ^ | 04/14/11 | Roger Ebert

Posted on 04/14/2011 3:54:19 PM PDT by Borges

Edited on 04/15/2011 12:42:07 PM PDT by Sidebar Moderator. [history]

I feel like my arm is all warmed up and I don

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TOPICS: TV/Movies
KEYWORDS: atlasshrugged; aynrand; rogerebert; whoisjohngalt
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To: Borges

How did I know that a diehard Socialist like Roger Ebert would hate this film.

Chin up, Roger! Keep a stiff upper lip!


141 posted on 04/15/2011 6:42:20 AM PDT by Lazamataz (The Democrat Party is Communist. The Republican Party is Socialist. The Tea Party is Capitalist.)
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To: sten; Borges
"...the reviews on rottentomatoes.com are all from leftie columnists. of course they would hate it."

Actually Kurt Loder is a Randian Libertarian who has, in the past taken Michael Moore's "Sicko" to task. His review of Atlas Shrugged was for reason.com ("Free Minds and Free Markets"); hardly a "lefty" news source. If anybody would be inclined to prop this movie up, it would be Loder, and he thought it sucked.

142 posted on 04/15/2011 7:01:35 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: usconservative

So you hate Casablanca, The Godfather, The Right Stuff?


143 posted on 04/15/2011 7:12:16 AM PDT by Borges
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To: ConservaTexan

His primary objection was that it was stiff and lacking in dramatic tension.


144 posted on 04/15/2011 7:14:21 AM PDT by Borges
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To: ThomasMore

Samuel Johnson? George Bernard Shaw? Matthew Arnold?


145 posted on 04/15/2011 7:15:03 AM PDT by Borges
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To: ThomasMore
"I’ve seen hundreds of statues erected to famous and infamous people all over the world. But I have NEVER seen one erected for a critic."

John Ruskin, sculpted by Gutzon Borglum

146 posted on 04/15/2011 7:18:06 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: CharacterCounts

You can be a free man, or you can be a conservative.


147 posted on 04/15/2011 7:47:31 AM PDT by fnord (Republicans are just the right-wing of the left-wing of American politics)
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To: CharacterCounts

Ping for later...on the road...:)


148 posted on 04/15/2011 7:48:20 AM PDT by rlmorel (Capitalism is the Goose that lays The Golden Egg.)
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To: Joe 6-pack

I can understand that the lefties would have a visceral hate for the book and movie, but when reasonable critics give a coherent thumbs-down, it doesn’t look promising. Seems like it was rushed to meet an external deadline. I await some man-on-the-street reviews to see if the main ideas come through.

Oh well, there were several horribly lame versions of Lord of the Rings, but eventually along came Peter Jackson and the rest is history. Someday maybe ...

I would think someone could write a tighter plot and better dialogue, while keeping the main themes intact. Of course, the lefties would still attack it.


149 posted on 04/15/2011 8:04:18 AM PDT by fnord (Republicans are just the right-wing of the left-wing of American politics)
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To: fnord
I can tell you that I NEVER deliberately seek out Ebert movie reviews, and in fact, the only time I ever read them is when somebody posts them here on FR. At one time, years ago, he was able to bite his tongue on politics and limit his observations to the artistic merit of a given film. In recent years he has either lost the ability, or abandoned the willingness to do so.

On the other hand, I've come to give a lot of weight to Loder's movies reviews, and find that after watching various movies, I often, although not always, agree with his assessments.

150 posted on 04/15/2011 8:12:04 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Borges
His negative reviews are usually much more caustic and witty. This was just an incoherent rambling... as if he doesn't really understand why he doesn't like the movie, he just knows he is not supposed to. So he throws a few slings and arrows toward Rand and leaves it at that. Seriously, "Al Capone's vault?" That's the best barb he could come up with? One that has been used more often than, "The first time I heard that, I laughed so hard, I fell off my dinosaur?"

Ebert is simply a typical Liberal - and a simple-minded one. They just do not understand what there is not to like about a society that lives under the thumb of a repressive government that only wants to "help." He just doesn't get it.

151 posted on 04/15/2011 8:22:15 AM PDT by ponygirl
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To: Joe 6-pack

Some critics are capable of expressing reasons for their opinion, while most seem only to want to vent their emotions.

Ebert with Siskel provided a good balance. They would often see oppposite sides of the same coin, but they could do so with good humor, and therefore be much more informative. Seems rare nowadays.

Anyway, from the start Ebert gets Rand’s philosophy 180 degrees wrong, so I doubt he read the book or watched the movie with an open mind. However, from other reviews it might not be worth a two-hour drive to see.


152 posted on 04/15/2011 8:22:45 AM PDT by fnord (Republicans are just the right-wing of the left-wing of American politics)
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To: Still Thinking

I kinda thought so, but wasn’t up to correcting him on that.


153 posted on 04/15/2011 8:23:53 AM PDT by dangus
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To: ponygirl
This was just an incoherent rambling... as if he doesn't really understand why he doesn't like the movie, he just knows he is not supposed to.

He doesn't like the movie because he was told that he wasn't supposed to like it. He's a typical liberal lemming.

154 posted on 04/15/2011 8:27:02 AM PDT by meyer (We will not sit down and shut up.)
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To: Borges

Reardon invented reardon metal.

did he write the review before he saw the movie or did he just base it on a few clips.


155 posted on 04/15/2011 8:27:15 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: CharacterCounts

“However, that does not explain the love affair so many conservatives have with Rand.”

Because the crux of the question is what involvement should any government have in the different issues that you have brought up. For example:

“In short, Objectivism has about the same relationship to conservatism as pornography has to love. Both may have sex involved, but one lifts the human spirit and one is soulless and empty.”

What role should government (federal or state) have in the realm of sex or love?


156 posted on 04/15/2011 8:39:18 AM PDT by CSM (Keeper of the "Dave Ramsey Fan" ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
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To: Snark
Maybe I’m not nearly as smart or sophisticated as Rodgy....

Or maybe you're just not as into rumpy-pumpy as he is.

157 posted on 04/15/2011 8:45:04 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: CSM
What role should government (federal or state) have in the realm of sex or love?/

None!

And you are trying to throw a red herring into the discussion, as I never implied that it does.

158 posted on 04/15/2011 8:58:16 AM PDT by CharacterCounts (November 4, 2008 - the day America drank the Kool-Aid)
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To: Still Thinking

After I saw who wrote the review, I stopped reading it.

Can’t wait to see this movie!


159 posted on 04/15/2011 9:20:21 AM PDT by TheConservativeParty (POTUS 45 Sarah Palin....Resistance is futile! Prepare to be liberated!)
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To: CharacterCounts

“None!

And you are trying to throw a red herring into the discussion, as I never implied that it does.”

I used one example from your various posts, they should all have the same answer of there should be no government involvement in those areas. That is the common theme between Rand and Conservatives. You were looking for the reason, so there you go.

Personal morality disagreements aside, Rand and Conservatives have the same desire of getting the government out of people’s personal lives.


160 posted on 04/15/2011 9:28:53 AM PDT by CSM (Keeper of the "Dave Ramsey Fan" ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
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