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To: cva66snipe
Agreed.

I love how squishy "Republicans" are constantly lecturing conservatives about how we have to continue to enable their capitulations. Now '47 is telling me she's on the side of the "Founders."

As if.

Here's the truth: despite the fact that conservatives are the heart, soul, and deep-pockets of the GOP, and always have been, we've had just two actual conservatives since 1900: Coolidge and Reagan. Teddy: liberal, Hoover: liberal, Nixon: liberal. Eisenhower, Ford, the Bushes: go-along-to-get-alongs.

It's also amusing because they're actually the first to abandon ship despite all the sanctimony. Who went from Capitol Hill to the White House to tell Nixon (a liberal Republican on every issue except anticommunism) they wouldn't fight for him? Hugh Scott and the rest of the pansy liberal and moderate 'Pubs. Who wrote the laudatory articles and actually voted for BH0? Peggy Noonan, Chris Buckley (not even a shadow of his old man) Kathleen Parker, David Brooks and all the other conservative haters, leaving the rest of us to defend the indefensible John McCain [the very linguine they foisted on us to begin with.]

My prediction: '47 will be lecturing us next year about how we've got to do an amnesty deal, or some other inanity that the Beltway GOP loves.

157 posted on 04/11/2011 1:58:03 PM PDT by FredZarguna (It looks just like a Telefunken U-47. In leather.)
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To: FredZarguna
In it's birth the GOP was a liberal party and pro-strong central big government. Up till the late 50's early 60's the DEMs had some of the strongest conservatives in history. FDR basically started the DEMs on the road to socialism.

I just don't get it how someone can vote GOP no matter what when they have candidates who say things like "Mr Gore and I are not that far apart on most issues" Or "I think Hillary would make a fine POTUS", or "The president "OBama" is doing a great job" and last the one that used the term "The New World Order".

Reagan wasn't a perfect conservative but he was to the right of his own party and took the nation right. Poppy Bush undid that his first two years. The GOP's favorite whipping boy in relation to Poppy's loss is Perot. Had Poppy stayed the Reagan course there would not have been a Perot campaign.

Their favorite whipping boy over the Middle East state sponsored terrorism is Carter. Well actually it was Gerald Ford's EO that set the thing in motion my considering thug dictators as heads of state and prohibited targets for covert removal. He eliminated the fear of retribution and within one POTUS term it happened. Don't get me wrong Carter is the second worse POTUS ever but even Carter late in his third year starting addressing some of the military morale issues. I was active duty Navy than and saw the changes happening. It's sad when Carter in his term did more to improve the Navy than W with a two house majority.

I blame the GOP congress era 1995-2001 as well as Clinton and even Poppy Bush for that matter for allowing our military to be taken to a point where two U.S. Navy carriers failed critical readiness evaluations. Two career aircraft carrier Navy Captain's were relieved of duty for decisions mostly made by congress and the Pentagon as to the funding for needed shipyard work.

I look back at the events and policies from early 1989 when Reagan left office too now and if I did not know better I would swear we have been under a Dem House and senate majority as well as had a DEM POTUS for the past 22 years. In an operational policy sense we indeed have had just that.

The GOP is on it's way to ending the same way it began meaning as a liberal party. Reagan would not recognize the GOP of today nor would he remain silent about it's direction either. I don't know why GOP shills keep mentioning the so called Reagan's 11th commandment because Reagan didn't go by it himself when he knew he was right and it was a critical issue.

158 posted on 04/11/2011 4:32:54 PM PDT by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?)
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To: FredZarguna

47 reporting in here. My creds, to refute your insinuations based on no knowledge at all. I am a total anti-amnesty freak, want a fence built along the entire southern border, if possible, and want id check at all workplaces. So much for one of your accusations you lobbed.

I am a birther through and through. Are you? I want anti-Sharia laws passed in all States and want barely any visas that could develop into permanent residency later, issued to any Muzzies. I want our financial house put in order, that is, when we win next year’s elections, the Presidency and both houses of Congress.

I want Medicare and Medicaid cleared of all fraud and abuse, and I want privatization of virtually all that can be privatized. I want no death panels. I want no Obamacare ever. I want fair trade along with free trade, and attempt to stop certain other countries from cheating to our disadvantage in the world market.

I want strength and respect and a good chunk of fear to be the basis for our foreign relations, not how much the rest of the world likes us. I want spending cuts or elimination of all areas of gov’t including but not limited to the EPA, Public Television/Radio, Planned Parenthood, the Dept. of Education and other useless Depts in gov’t, for good. I suspect you get the general idea here.

Ok, bigmouth, what are your conservative creds, other than a willingness to lay down on your sword now for short term gain, rather than go for the long term win of our Party taking over all three branches of gov’t in this next Presidential election. At that point, we can frame gov’t as we want with no impediments. If you ruin our ability to do so for current bragging rights, I and many other rational, logical folks out here will be gunning for the likes of you to blame.


160 posted on 04/11/2011 10:51:38 PM PDT by flaglady47 (When the gov't fears the people, liberty; When the people fear the gov't, tyranny.)
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