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Thhe hyperventilators seem to rule these threads. Sad, as they are as irrational as the far left Dems are. You can’t win w/out compromise when you only have one half of one House of Congress, and no Presidency. But the dunderhead hotheads can’t seem to understand the obvious.

There’s your fact for you, simple logic, comprende?

Well not so long ago we had two GOP houses and a GOP POTUS so what was the GOP's excuse then? Zodiac alignments weren't right? Either the GOP starts getting it's act together with a will to get down and dirty and fight or it will be Whigged and replaced.

If one GOP POTUS for 8 years willing to fight for his programs and principles could take on two house opposition and at least get a considerable portion of his agenda pushed through then why can't the GOP congress? When you have GOP as Liberal as the Democratic Party and they are not held accountable for sake of the party must win or else mentality you only have a one party nation. Right now I'd be very pleased if one third of the congress gridlocked the mess for several months.

One third standing against both parties would straighten much of the current mess out. Change will not come by playing nice with the DEMs or even some members of the GOP. Change will come when we get enough elected in congress with a spine and not focused on winning the next election instead. That is why the GOP folds like cheap seats. The idiots are too focused on maintaining office till their retirement rather than actually doing something while there is opportunity.

Which brings up another matter. The best way to get term limits is to start demanding an end to the congressional retirement program. There should be no retirement benefits for federal elected offices. Elected offices should not be careers either.

One Edward Kennedy spent nearly 50 years in the U.S. senate as the functional majority leader. Nothing happened on either side without his blessing. I despised the man but had the GOP fought like him we would not be in this mess. Dole couldn't get past him nor could Lott, Frist, or anyone else. Why? Because they never fought.

There was no compromise. The Democrats could not pass this very budget when they owned overwhelming majorities in both houses and held the presidency. In exchange for the GOP giving them political cover, they got more than 99% of 0bama's proposed budget for FY 2011.

If you think owning 1/3 of the political power, including the chamber in which spending measures must arise entitles you to <1%, it's no wonder you think this is a victory, and no wonder the Democrats have been winning since the 1930's without any serious contraction in spending or their agenda.

You think watching this disgusting spectacle go on and on and on for literally decades is hotheadedness? Really?! No such thing. It's the end of a very calm patience with one defeat after another just like this one. You really have no concept of how desperate our situation is here at all, do you?