. . . God Save Our American States!
Posted on 04/02/2011 7:53:41 AM PDT by JoeProBono
A hush fell over the crowd filling the elegant hall in downtown Richmond, Va. The vote was about to be announced, and a young staffer of the Museum of the Confederacy balanced his laptop across his knees, poised to get out the news as soon as it was official.
Who would be chosen "Person of the Year, 1861"?
Five historians had made impassioned nominations, and the audience would now decide.
Most anywhere else, the choice would be obvious. Who but Abraham Lincoln? But this was a vote in the capital of the rebellion that Lincoln put down, sponsored by a museum dedicated to his adversary. How would Lincoln and his war be remembered in this place, in our time?
A century and a half have passed since Lincoln's crusade to reunify the United States. The North and the South still split deeply on many issues, not least the conflict they still call by different names. All across the bloodstained arc where the Civil War raged, and beyond, Americans are deciding how to remember....
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Every state North of the Mason-Dixon is a write off. Nothing but RINO’s will ever come from there.
Comical poppycrap bump.
Dude you are a pretty foul mouthed agitator and a jerk to boot. Especially for nOOb.
I haven’t read the rest of this thread but I vote IBTZ.
Agreed.
In the middle of a war, despite the disruption of usual agricultural and labor markets, he managed to free his father in law’s slaves, pay off his debts, and complete the legal transfer of the plantations to his sons. He even had money (not in Confederate funny money) to pay his US taxes in specie, but was not allowed to, as the tax agent refused to accept the money from his agent, rather demanded that the principal pay in person. Lee had tried to settle the estate for years before the rebellion, with intact agricultural markets and the market for slave labor intact. The only explanation is he managed to sell off premium slaves who were not named in his father in law’s will. Where are the female slaves that were born in that time when he was executor? Missing from the books. Gone. Male slaves were born as usual, and documented as usual.
Another contributing fact: His documented “enthusiasm” for pursuing female slaves.
And to confirm, his own personal slave had 4 sons. The girls, once again, gone. No records of any female children having ever existed. Army pay when he was stationed in Texas was inadequate. He managed to live there well, and indeed was able to find ready cash to acquire his slave girl Nancy, and her 4 sons. And female breeding slaves were more valuable than males, as shown by market prices. So either he found some kind of money tree, and shook it occasionally, or he found some other kind of money tree, and shook it as he was able.
Where did brothels get their girls? It was a common place to get rid of slave girls who resembled the master a bit too much. Rape of slaves (with the permission of the master) was not even a crime, according to the honorable southern gentlemen.
So RE Lee was strictly honorable, according to the peculiar lights of the peculiar institution. It is embarrassing to today’s southern partisans, and should be.
Good One!!!!
RINOS live everywhere or haven’t you noticed?
A Republican from North of the Mason-Dixon has a 99.99% chance of being a RINO. From the South your chances are about 60/40 non-RINO/RINO ratio.
The American people, North and South, went into the [Civil] war as citizens of their respective states, they came out as subjects … what they thus lost they have never got back. – H.L. Mencken
The principle, on which the war was waged by the North, was simply this: That men may rightfully be compelled to submit to, and support, a government that they do not want; and that resistance, on their part, makes them traitors and criminals. No principle, that is possible to be named, can be more self-evidently false than this; or more self-evidently fatal to all political freedom. Yet it triumphed in the field, and is now assumed to be established. If it really be established, the number of slaves, instead of having been diminished by the war, has been greatly increased; for a man, thus subjected to a government that he does not want, is a slave. And there is no difference, in principle -— but only in degree -— between political and chattel slavery. The former, no less than the latter, denies a man’s ownership of himself and the products of his labor; and asserts that other men may own him, and dispose of him and his property, for their uses, and at their pleasure. – Lysander Spooner
. . . God Save Our American States!
Yes indeed, said like a true welfare recipient!
Why are people fleeing your State - and - those other,... Soviet States of New England? People may want to move here, but it ain't there.....
Not a problem.
yawn
Hi Non - still hiding under that new handle? Knew you couldn’t stay away from WBTS very long
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Obviously you have me confused with someone else.
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Nobody’s confused you liberal troll retread.
It appears you are.
Well, I dont see a need to ever break with the Constitution, even in times of war. It is a slippery slope.
I can see both sides of this and both have very good points. The Southerners condemn Sherman but seem to forget Quantrill and Bloody Bill Anderson. Sherman didnt kill non-combatants, but Quantrill and Anderson did with gusto. But Quantrill wasnt part of the CSA, but agents of it.
The North was not angels. Sherman march is an exmaple. But Sherman knew that if you wanted a war to end quickly, you punish people who support it.
If the USA was so cruel, why wasnt its leaders hung after the war, as was often the case in Europe? Hell, we even name Military bases and schools after them. In another country, Lee would have been strung up.
The Civil War is still fought. Hard feelings still can be found down South towards Yankees long after the last grave was dug.
where else would he have gotten gold coins to pay his federal taxes, in the middle of the war, with his wages paid in confederate money?
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