[FrankR]

"But they didn't have the green thing back in her day."

We returned the bottles to get a 2-cent deposit, not to prevent some fantasy called "global warming".

Only big cities had escalators, smaller towns had very few buildings over 1-story high.

We didn't take the 300 hp machine, because very few people could even afford a car.

Most of the elites and eggheads who are radical enviromentalists are the very ones who gave us plastic bottles, bags, and throwaway razors.

If we had had those things in the 40's and 50's we would have used them just like people today.

To place jerkwad evironut fantasies in the context of 50 years ago is unrealistic...it's apples and oranges.

I was there then, and I'm here now, and today's environmentalism ideas, back then, would have gotten you labeled an alarmist and village idiot in one fell swoop.

[Windflier]

I was there then, and I'm here now, and today's environmentalism ideas, back then, would have gotten you labeled an alarmist and village idiot in one fell swoop.

Ain't that the truth. Common sense was actually COMMON, only a few decades ago.

As I said upthread, insanity like what we see in today's green movement, is one of the primary reasons the Tea Party sprang up. Americans who still have some of their common sense left, are sick and tired of the drip, drip, drip of liberal idiocies being foisted upon us.

"Green" has nothing whatsoever to do with "saving the planet", and everything to do with transforming America into a totalitarian Socialist police state, where our Constitution and our Bill of Rights are no more.

[dalereed]

“We didn’t take the 300 hp machine, because very few people could even afford a car.”

My parents both had cars since the 20s.

My mother drove a model T to L.A. High in 1923 and my dad drove a model T to San Diego High in 1916.

I had a 1940 coupe with a 3/8x3/8 flathead all ready to go street racing on my 16th birthday in 1952 that I bought and paid for with money I made myself.