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Trump fails to produce birth certificate
Politico ^ | 03/28/2011 | Ben Smith

Posted on 03/28/2011 4:48:32 PM PDT by Smokeyblue

Donald Trump made headlines earlier today when he provided what he said was a copy of his birth certificate -- but a quick check reveals it's actually not an official document.

The paper that Trump released says "Jamaica Hospital" on top and lists the date and time of what he says was his birth to "Mr. and Mrs. Fred C. Trump." The piece of paper has a seal at the bottom.

But after several New York City-based readers contacted POLITICO's Maggie Haberman, her call to city officials revealed that an actual birth certificate, which is issued by the Department of Health, would have the agency's seal and also a signature of the city registrar - neither of which the Trump document has. Officials said the city Health Department is the "sole issuing authority" of official birth certificates in New York, and that the document would clearly say so, and "city officials said it's not an official document."

It appears instead to be a hospital "certificate of birth," meaning the piece of paper the hospital gave to his family saying he was born. Such a document typically has the signature of the hospital administrator and the attending physician.

(Excerpt) Read more at politico.com ...


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To: cynwoody

Zactly.. I’m hoping he’s brilliant.


181 posted on 03/28/2011 7:38:59 PM PDT by gcraig (Freedom isn't free)
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To: RockinRight

That is what I have. The State Dept would only accept the one from the Health District. The military accepted the hospital certificate.


182 posted on 03/28/2011 7:46:04 PM PDT by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)?)
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To: eyedigress

OK - time to clarify as I now have both in my hand.

Both of them actually say “certificate of live birth” at the top (Ohio).

The older one, which has RED INK (original) signed/issued 8/29/1977, has my name, date of birth, gender, hospital born in, mother’s name, address, age, state of birth, and same for my father (except address), then it’s signed by the doctor and registrar.

The other form I ordered from the State of Ohio just says:

My name, date record filed and file # (which matches other document), date of birth, parents names, MOTHER’S state of birth only. Then a seal and stamp that certifies it’s accuracy.


183 posted on 03/28/2011 7:48:55 PM PDT by RockinRight (C'mon people - enough with the FR circular firing squad.)
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To: jcsjcm
Tyler’s precedent established that if the President’s office becomes vacant due to death, resignation or disqualification, the Vice President becomes President.

I'll tell you one thing about these eligibility threads -- they'll sure make you crack open the Constitution!

Thanks for that reference. I went through my desk copy and discovered that Amendment XXV Section 1, actually conflicts with Article II Section 1 Clause Six.

It says, "In case of the removal of the President from office or of his death or resignation, the Vice President shall become President."

I have no idea how to square that conflict. I don't see where the original language in Article II was repealed to make way for this amendment.

In Article II, it states, "In case of the removal of the President from office, of his death, resignation, or inability to discharge the powers and duties of the said office, the same shall devolve upon the Vice President..."

184 posted on 03/28/2011 7:51:28 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Hoodat
US Code - Title 3, § 19

Thanks, Hoodat. I knew it was written somewhere. Seems to me, it should have been added to the Constitution as an Amendment.

185 posted on 03/28/2011 7:53:02 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: RockinRight

Well mine are different just a bit. It is around Obama’s time frame and from WA.

The Health Dept copy has Mothers maiden, Fathers name and DOB, place of birth for both. My official name and county of birth. It has a certified stamp and State Seal.


186 posted on 03/28/2011 7:57:14 PM PDT by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)?)
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To: kosciusko51
This is going to be more fun than when Dan Blather was exposed for the fake GWB documents.

I'm literally throwing a party if Obama goes down for this. The media should fry for this, all of them.

187 posted on 03/28/2011 7:57:21 PM PDT by CommieCutter (Promote Liberal Extinction: Support gay marriage and abortion!)
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To: W. W. SMITH
With Obama ineligible that would put us on untrod ground which no one foresaw. I do not want the history books of the future saying that we in effect did not have a president for over two years. Logic leads me to Dick Cheney...

I don't know why your logic isn't leading you to John Boehner. You posted the line of succession, just before the above paragraph, and he would be next in line behind Biden, who would be disqualified (we think).

188 posted on 03/28/2011 7:57:44 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Smokeyblue

Now Fox is getting into the act. This is comical.

Questions Raised About Trump’s Birth Certificate

http://nation.foxnews.com/donald-trump/2011/03/28/questions-raised-about-trumps-birth-certificate

“What is Donald Trump hiding? ...”


189 posted on 03/28/2011 7:58:43 PM PDT by Smokeyblue
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To: gcraig
I’m hoping he’s brilliant.

Well, if he isn't, he will be after he reads all of the email he's getting. I'm sure that hundreds of people are pointing out the obvious rope-a-dope to him tonight.

190 posted on 03/28/2011 7:59:39 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: RockinRight

It’s not his eligibility that is the problem, methinks. There’s something else Trump’s after here.

We just don’t know what, yet, but I bet he’s already seen it and is waiting till the right time.


I love a good suspense story and it would make sense to have an “October surprise” close to the next election.


191 posted on 03/28/2011 8:03:10 PM PDT by jamese777
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To: Carlucci

As I said on an earier thread:

“...I guess the case could be made that Donald is offering up a certificate issued to his parents by the hospital upon his birth. Donald’s next move could be “Oh, you mean THIS certificate?” ...”

:)


192 posted on 03/28/2011 8:04:35 PM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: Las Vegas Ron

You’re welcome, am always happy to expose an obot troll.


And in that regard, you’re a legend in your own mind.


193 posted on 03/28/2011 8:04:42 PM PDT by jamese777
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To: dinodino

He does this garbage on every thread regarding this subject. It’s ridiculous.


194 posted on 03/28/2011 8:09:15 PM PDT by CommieCutter (Promote Liberal Extinction: Support gay marriage and abortion!)
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To: Smokeyblue

Trump... You Magnificent Bastard!


195 posted on 03/28/2011 8:14:43 PM PDT by Sparky26803
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To: jamese777
the state of Hawaii has stood by his Certificate of Live Birth.

This is a lie. Please stop posting lies to FreeReublic.om.

196 posted on 03/28/2011 8:17:32 PM PDT by Plummz (pro-constitution, anti-corruption)
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To: jamese777
the state of Hawaii has stood by his Certificate of Live Birth.

This is a lie. Please stop posting lies to FreeRepublic.om.

197 posted on 03/28/2011 8:17:48 PM PDT by Plummz (pro-constitution, anti-corruption)
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To: Las Vegas Ron
This is the kind of crap jamese777, FR site pest, posted to me AFTER having posted all kinds of FAITHER garbage:

If you go back and read my posts for the last year and a half you’ll find that I have consistently advocated for a grand jury investigation of Obama’s eligibility.

Post 63: HERE

198 posted on 03/28/2011 8:20:31 PM PDT by CommieCutter (Promote Liberal Extinction: Support gay marriage and abortion!)
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To: Plummz

See post 198.

This guy flip flops.

They need to have him removed.


199 posted on 03/28/2011 8:22:30 PM PDT by CommieCutter (Promote Liberal Extinction: Support gay marriage and abortion!)
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To: FrankR

the irony is lost on them.


200 posted on 03/28/2011 8:24:09 PM PDT by exist
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