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To: Logic n' Reason; Quix
Logic n' Reason

Ha ha. Logic only guarantees you will get from premises to conclusion in such a way that the conclusion will be valid. It doesn't mean the conclusion will be true. Logic doesn't guarantee truth, only consistency.

Axioms in math and geometry aren't a product of logic. Even logic isn't a product of logic. And you can't connect all areas of truth by the same train of logic. You can't even do this in math.

Reality exists apart from logic and reason. You may be able to use them to tease out useful information from the welter of your experience but you shouldn't mistake the product of that process for reality itself.

Given the opportunity to think for themselves, one would have a very very difficult time selling this kind of myth/fairy tale to a 5 year old.

Same for entangled photons. Same for superstring theory. Same for base 5 arithmetic. Same for hydraulics. Same for almost anything outside the knowledge and experience of a 5 year old (think of how they react when they ask where they came from and are given a technically correct description of human reproduction). What someone believes or finds unbelievable doesn't necessarily have anything to do with reality. Think of the absurdity of what you're saying with the example of a five year old: "The five year old would have a very difficult time believing something like this, therefore, there is a necessary and corresponding degree of unlikelihood in the proposition being true." Since when does the judgment of a five-year-old become the sine qua non of judging the validity of a proposition? You're making some fundamental errors both in philosophy and epistemology.

Back to school for you.
73 posted on 03/22/2011 5:44:08 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: aruanan

Nail, meet hammer.


79 posted on 03/22/2011 5:58:43 AM PDT by IronJack (=)
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To: aruanan

What a clear statement! These paragraphs all by themselves are worth an entire semester of philosopy.


114 posted on 03/22/2011 7:54:46 AM PDT by hfr (There be scholars here.)
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To: aruanan

Oops! I was wrong, all your paragraphs together aren’t worth an entire semester.

It’s your sentances.

Your sentances are each worth at least a semester apiece.


116 posted on 03/22/2011 8:07:23 AM PDT by hfr (There be scholars here.)
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To: aruanan

INDEED.


123 posted on 03/22/2011 8:38:55 AM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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