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To: WKB
You know, a lot of people are hung up the “husband of one wife thing” but it never seems to apply to never married only divorced men.

Paul warned us about legalistic interpretations, getting hung up on the letter of the law, instead of the spirit.

About a year ago, our last ordained Deacon passed away and we decided on three new Deacons, one of whom was 42 years old and never married. Another was only once married but a widower, the third was once married but the father of only one child. Not one of them met the strict legalistic definition of a Deacon.

The first two were not the husband of one wife and the third did not meet the requirement of having obedient children (plural). No one in our church had an objection to any of them and they were duly ordained.

Thanks for the ping to this interesting article.

75 posted on 03/21/2011 4:39:48 AM PDT by Graybeard58 (Of course Obama loves his country. The thing is, Sarah loves mine.)
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To: Graybeard58; WKB
Paul warned us about legalistic interpretations, getting hung up on the letter of the law, instead of the spirit.

That is an interesting deconstruction of 1 Ti 3. What makes it particularly odd is that in the very same letter Paul describes who "the law" is for (1:8-11) and for what purpose, and no where in his description did I see anything close to resembling him saying, "and about the other things I'm telling you to do - these are just mere suggestions, I really don't expect you to actually abide by them."

The passages that your congregation willfully chose to ignore, in this case deacons, explains the purpose in the requirements. To advise another to blow off Paul's instructions is to also belittle the reasons behind them.

So I'm not quite sure how to take your advice here. Your reasoning is flawed, Paul's rules for the Church are not the same as the Law handed down to Moses. Paul explicitly states that those who reject his words are not rejecting the words of man, but of God (1 Thess 4:8) and that those who do not obey these words should be abandoned. (2 Thes 3:14). Furthermore, in passages like Philemon 21 Paul expects the recipients of his letters to do more than just obey the letter. If we were to follow the same course that your congregation has chosen, there comes a problem when those who are under bishops and deacons are going to struggle with Hebrews 13:17 "They keep watch over you as men who must give an account." especially when those who "must give account" never even met the qualifications.

I don't know how your operation runs, maybe the Bible is a joke, in which case, the unqualified deacons seems to fit in well with that culture. What seems more disturbing is that out of your congregation, you couldn't find anyone who could fulfill these qualifications - so now you have Affirmative Action deacons, and expect God to wink at the transgression. (sigh)

They might be real stand-up respectable guys, but that is only part of the qualification. The instructions want demonstration that has taken years to accomplish. You can't fake having good kids and a joyful household.

Do I need to slip in a "Birther" comment here too? ;)

80 posted on 03/21/2011 5:08:43 AM PDT by The Theophilus (Pray for Obama (Psalms 109:8))
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