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To: Elendur; SvenMagnussen

It all ties in together. Someone who tried to verify that the SSN Obama used in his 2009 tax returns had actually been issued to Obama and the SSN database came back saying that number had NOT been issued to Obama. Why is Obama using a SSN that was not issued to him?

There are different claims regarding whether he could have gotten a CT SSN. One claim, IIRC, (and correct me if I’ve got this wrong, Sven) is that the number could have come from an agency in CT that handled SSN’s for foreign students, and Obama had applied to Occidental as an Indonesian citizen who had been born in Hawaii.

There are also apparently different claims about the SSN that Sean Paul Ludwig used. The SS Death Index claims a different SSN for Ludwig than was used by Obama, but Kerchner seems to be saying that researchers have found original sources in which Ludwig used the same SSN that Obama is using. We haven’t seen those documents so I don’t know how reliable they are. Kerchner seems to be a reliable source so I don’t doubt that there are documents, but it could be possible that Ludwig himself made up a SSN that he used, just like Obama is using a SSN that was never issued to him.

Ultimately, the only way we will know the truth about the SSN’s is by checking the SS database to see who they have listed as the owners of the SSN’s, and auditing to see that the SS database info has not been manipulated. Auditing is necessary because we’ve already got evidence of data manipulation by every government agency that has disclosed any information of any kind on Obama or his mother.

One example of that is the statements by Fukino claiming an “original birth certificate” for Obama, even though HI Governor Neil Abercrombie (Obama’s friend) says they don’t have one for Obama in Hawaii.

The important thing with Obama’s SSN is that the SS database says that number was NOT issued to Obama. That raises the question of why Obama is using a SSN that doesn’t belong to him. Does he even HAVE a SSN that belongs to him? If not, why not? And how was he able to be in the Illinois and US Senate without anybody ever noticing that he doesn’t have a SSN?

The whole mess tells us how bad the corruption, criminality, and incompetence in our current government system is. They cannot be trusted. Period. There are discrepancies with his birth records, his SSN, his draft registration, his passport, and his mother’s passport records. Those are the only agencies that have released any information about Obama. Every one. It’s no wonder that DHS is checking to see who is requesting FOIA records and what they might want it for before they will release any information. The whole stinking government is covering for this guy.

And that is the big story. It has little to do with Obama himself. I am idly curious as to his real story, but what burns in my belly is a need to get government itself back to some semblance of credibility and lawfulness.


85 posted on 03/17/2011 8:08:59 AM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: butterdezillion
"One example of that is the statements by Fukino claiming an “original birth certificate” for Obama, even though HI Governor Neil Abercrombie (Obama’s friend) says they don’t have one for Obama in Hawaii."

In other words, a public official can lie about official business with total impunity. One of these two must be mistaken (Not telling the truth). Thank goodness that we live in a Narion of Laws!

94 posted on 03/17/2011 8:21:24 AM PDT by I am Richard Brandon
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To: butterdezillion
"One example of that is the statements by Fukino claiming an “original birth certificate” for Obama, even though HI Governor Neil Abercrombie (Obama’s friend) says they don’t have one for Obama in Hawaii."

In other words, a public official can lie about official business with total impunity. One of these two must be mistaken (Not telling the truth). Thank goodness that we live in a Nation of Laws! /sarc

96 posted on 03/17/2011 8:22:12 AM PDT by I am Richard Brandon
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