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To: Windflier
"Sorry, but the letters and writings of those who penned our constitution say differently."

The only mention of natural born citizen that I know of by the founders was from John Jay:

"Permit me to hint whether it would not be wise and seasonable to provide a strong check to the admission of Foreigners into the administration of our national Government, and to declare expressly that the Command in Chief of the American army shall not be given to nor devolve on, any but a natural born Citizen"

In there he never mentions birthplace. Do you know of another founder who said something else about natural born Citizenship?
166 posted on 03/17/2011 11:12:55 AM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: Old Teufel Hunden
In there he [John Jay] never mentions birthplace. Do you know of another founder who said something else about natural born Citizenship?

The phrase, "Natural Born Citizen" comes directly from Vattel's treatise, 'Law of Nations', which learned men of the day (especially the Framers) were very familiar with.

I've done quite a bit of searching on that phrase since Obama was elected, but have found no colloquial references for it. It was essentially a legal term that defined a precise condition of citizenship (as defined by Vattel).

As far as I know, it may have been coined by Vattel himself.

I'm almost sure that I ran across another reference to NBC by one of the Framers in my travels, but all of my saved research is on the hard drive of a computer that's now FUBAR. I don't recall offhand now where I read it, or who it was that mentioned it.

191 posted on 03/17/2011 4:20:21 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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