5.45x39 is, if you dont mind an ak74
As far as ballistics they are about the same but while the AK74 wont rival the AR15 as a platform, ammo is about $125 for 1260 rds
Posted on 03/05/2011 12:31:04 PM PST by rabidralph
I've been intrigued by the Appleseed Project and I would like to take part in some of their shooting events, as well as other recreational shooting events. Most events require 400-500 rounds for weekend participation. The ammo for my current rifles would cost nearly a dollar per round. I've done some checking at Cheaper than Dirt and ammo for .223 rifles would be only $250 or so, a much more manageable cost.
I would like to get FReeper recommendations for fun-to-shoot rifles in the .223/5.56 that would be suitable for the Appleseed Project and practical for training purposes.
Also, does anyone know of a carbine conversion kit for a S&W Model 622 pistol, .22LR? Something similar to this Beretta?
That looks like a knockoff of a G3.
5.45x39 is, if you dont mind an ak74
As far as ballistics they are about the same but while the AK74 wont rival the AR15 as a platform, ammo is about $125 for 1260 rds
HK93 clone
The ammo link is quite helpful. Thanks very much!
Another option is the Golani Galil from Century. I have two and two friends have one each. Nice rifles and accurate for a AK action. About the only drawback is the weight, but that is what makes the almost indestructible.
I have one of Keltec CA models.
I own several M-4’s , I built using with LMT suppers.
The Keltec has yet to jam or fail on me. It holds two 10 round mags in the stock.
I only shoot NATO ammo, so it could handle lower pressure .223s
Is it a $2,500 rifle?
No.
I have 2 cetmes as well. Decent machines if you know what to look for.
Century is hit or miss for quality of the builds, but you can find gems cheap.
Alantic has AK74s cheap. Surplus 5.45x39 is really about the cheapest ammo out there besides .22LR.
http://www.atlanticfirearms.com/storeproduct911.aspx
That’s about all I shoot now besides .22 and 9mm.
They are cheap to feed.
No, Ralphie. You'll shoot your eye out!
-PJ
Not in my experience. I've enjoyed every round I've fired. I do wish I could place them more accurately. I have to admit I'm only a fair marksman, even with the training...
My Century Galils have turned into my favorite shooters. They eat the cheap Russian steel case very well. They are now my truck/ATV guns and I’m intending to put a mount/rack on the tractor, bobcat & backhoe so they are always in reach.
I also have a IMI in .308 and it is a whole different class, but I don’t shoot it.
The Galil seems to be one rifle Century got right. I’ve seen very few complaints.
The picture reminds me, I have a new wood grip I tung oiled... I need to dig it out and install it.
That looks like a nice 74, add a scope and you have a fun/cheap shooter
I got those cetmes for $350 a pop.
They work great and the build is nice despite all the internet bad mouthing.
I don’t consider the mini-14 to be an accurate gun at all.
I can’t help with the rifle. But I did attend Appleseed. They don’t much like scopes. The do like peep sites (see tech sights in post 31). They do like the cotton rifle sling (also post 31).
There were something like 30 shooters at my first Appleseed. All but a very few were shooting 10/22 rifles. One guy had a bolt action .17 rifle. My daughter had her break action single shot .22 and there was a larger caliber waaay down at the end of the line that I didn’t see what it was.
The program is set up for semi-autos, tech sights, and a sling.
Oh... and take a nice pad to lay down on as it’s nearly all prone position.
Appleseed is a great program. It was raining hard the day that I did it, but it hardly slowed us down. You should enjoy it. I intend to go back again when it is NOT raining... and I’ll take elbow pads.
The guys at the gun boards highly recommend them. I have some kits & receivers stashed away I need to build. The one 74 I have is a model Military Gun Supply sold and it wasn’t built nearly as well as the offerings from Atlantic.
The Daewoo, sadly, is a gaping hole in my collection.
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