Posted on 02/24/2011 4:22:11 PM PST by blade_tenner
From the proposed law:
'Prenatal murder' means the intentional removal of a fetus from a woman with an intention other than to produce a live birth or to remove a dead fetus; provided, however, that if a physician makes a medically justified effort to save the lives of both the mother and the fetus and the fetus does not survive, such action shall not be prenatal murder. Such term does not include a naturally occurring expulsion of a fetus known medically as a 'spontaneous abortion' and popularly as a 'miscarriage' so long as there is no human involvement whatsoever in the causation of such event. (c) The act of prenatal murder is contrary to the health and well-being of the citizens of this state and to the state itself and is illegal in this state in all instances. (d) Any person committing prenatal murder in this state shall be guilty of a felony and, upon conviction, shall be punished as provided in subsection (d) of Code Section 16-5-1.
Women have been lied to about abortion. When the realization hits of what they've done they need compassion and they often end up the most ardent supporters of life.
I agree.
Yeah, but 20 years on a chain gang would be better!/s
Where does it say that?
It was already previously posted on this thread....
“All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside.”
Congress was given power to adopt uniform rules of naturalization. According to these (a requirement of being 18 years of age is one of the rules) there is no way to naturalize the unborn.
Thus the unborn are not citizens, and until/unless the laws on naturalization are changed; they cannot be citizens.
You evos would like nothing more than to charge women with murder for having a miscarriage. I’ve seen evos argue that before on threads when the issue comes up.
Exceptions are bad things to make rules over and yet all I ever see you guys do is say, *Yeah, well what about (insert improbable, implausible scenario here)?* as if that rare exception justifies you guys desire for draconian government control of our lives.
The baby that that woman is carrying is a human being from conception on and deliberately taking it’s life is murder.
Miscarriage is NOT murder and it is the height of absurdity to even conceive of the idea of charging a woman who miscarried with murder.
That name (and the irrationality associated with it) seemed famliliar ...
Women of about 40 and under don't remember a time when abortion wasn't legal. Despite that I read that younger women are seeing abortion for what it is. I find that miraculous.
Yup. You had called him out before.
I do not support either abortion or criminalization of miscarriages or draconian government control of our lives.
That should be obvious to all but the deliberately obtuse or the irrationally unhinged.
Who’s an evo?
Many women miscarry and not even are sure they’re pregnant.
What are they going to do next? Require monthly blood tests to determine if a woman having her cycle is actually miscarrying so they can charge her with murder?
At the time that most women miscarry, the baby is far too small and undeveloped to even have the remotest chance of survival.
And the term *miscarriage* isn’t really used past the third or fourth month anyway. After that people tend to say the baby was still born.
This battle will be won on TWO fronts.
Convincing individuals to not have abortions.
Convincing government that there is not an inalienable right to murder the unborn.
I think that the brainwashing is still going on, too, at least from what little I glean from women’s magazines while at the salon.
The whole idea is crazy. Imho, of course.
We have a way to go but I never thought I’d see young women against abortion. That is encouraging.
Ooops.
IBTZ.....
Looks like JR’s zot button is going to be busy this week.
The emphasized portion is the problematic part of the law. Where does one draw the line at "no human involvement?" The problem is that "whatsoever" is an absolute term that precludes any application of common sense.
For example, suppose a traffic accident results in a miscarriage.... Obviously there is "human involvement" here. So one, both, or all parties to the accident are subject to prosecution for 'prenatal murder.'
How about a mother who miscarried as a result of tripping and and falling over something -- that's "human involvement." She's subject to prosecution.
I see what they're trying to do here ... but this particular law looks terrible, for the same reason that pretty much all "zero tolerance" rules are terrible.
The libs control media and they are still pushing but times are changing. However homosexual rights has become the battle ground that abortion was. Just when it looks like we’ll win one another pops up. Whack-a-mole.
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