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What HP really bought from Palm -- A mobile future, untethered from Microsoft
Fortune ^ | February 9, 2011 3:41 PM | Michael V. Copeland, Senior Writer

Posted on 02/15/2011 10:39:59 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach

The Touchpad, not reliant on Android, Windows or (of course) iOS, is a sign that HP demands to be taken seriously as a software company.

Yes, HP (HPQ) has now jumped into the tablet fray with its TouchPad.  It's a whiz-bang cool gadget, and some folks will want to rush out and buy it.  Are we talking iPad numbers? Not likely, but whether HP sells as many of its flavor of tablets  in this first outing isn't perhaps as important as HP finally wrenching its destiny away from Microsoft (MSFT) and placing it in its own hands.

Let's be very clear, the competition is Apple (AAPL), but those hardware companies  who would take on  the gang from Cupertino, HP among them,  have one huge disadvantage, they don't really do software.  Apple's success has shown that designing a device requires careful thought in multiple disciplines. Apple does a better job of cramming more hardware goodness, and software magic into a  beautiful gadget that runs faster and leaner than anyone. Apple does it so well, because as opposed to every other company in Silicon Valley, it has made software a priority.

What HP did when it dropped $1.2 billion on Palm, was signal that software is finally front and center for the largest  PC company on the planet. It could have relied on Google (GOOG) and its Android operating system for mobile devices, or waited for Microsoft to bring something new and nifty to the party. Instead it  decided to go it alone, or rather rely on Jon Rubinstein and his Palm webOS team.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Computers/Internet; Music/Entertainment; TV/Movies
KEYWORDS: hitech; hp; mobiledevices; palm; smartphones; tablets; webos

1 posted on 02/15/2011 10:40:05 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Hunh. Everyone wants to be Apple.

imitation is the lowest form of mediocrity.

yeah, you can quote me.

2 posted on 02/15/2011 10:48:28 AM PST by the invisib1e hand (talk to the hand)
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To: the invisib1e hand

excellent point...


3 posted on 02/15/2011 10:54:20 AM PST by raygunfan
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

If HP was serious about software... why buy out Plam :/

I’m happy with iOS 4 on the iPad, but will wait for Android 3 on the Motorola Xoom next, sorry HP but Palm thanks but no thanks, have enough nightmares from back in the day supporting their usless phone ‘OS’.


4 posted on 02/15/2011 10:57:01 AM PST by battousai (Conservatives are racist? YES, I hate stupid white liberals.)
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To: the invisib1e hand
WebOS is no mediocrity.

It may end up being the betamax of this decade, but it is far superior to iOS. iOS has the apps and the nice hardware to use it on, but is clunky and inefficient. WebOS is as elegant as Apple's hardware. If HP can find a way to get some traction for WebOS, it would make things interesting.

Unfortunately, I think that HP may be too late to the party. Its touchpad and Pre3 are coming out this summer. By then, Apple will have come out with the iPad2 and iPhone5, and HP will be shooting at a target that has already been moved farther away. They needed to have the Touchpad NOW. The only reason HP has a chance is because of its size and reach. If they come up with a way to tie WebOS to the millions of computers and other devices it sells, it may be able to make up for that tardiness. But it is unlikely.

I don't understand why it has taken so long for all these big hardware makers to respond to the iPad. It was released in April 2010, announced 3 months before that, and rumored 6 months before that. Since release, Apple has been able to develop a 2nd generation device while only Motorola and Samsung have been able to release anything that is even close to competitive. Motorola is not on the market even yet. Apple's advantage is not just its design; it is very good at getting great stuff to market.

5 posted on 02/15/2011 11:04:59 AM PST by Defiant (There is no line on the march towards marxism that Democrats won't cross. Democrat=CPUSA)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
HP needs to get its quality under control. I have a small marketing agency and we are transitioning from a total HP environment to an HP-free environment. Their printers are crap and I got tired of speaking with the Indian support centers.
6 posted on 02/15/2011 11:15:00 AM PST by bwc2221 ("")
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To: Defiant

What HP could do that Android and Apple cannot is specialize in industry or education. The Android and Ipad are generalist machines, geared more for entertainment than anything else.

If HP were to take their machines and create various kinds of industrial standard software for mobile workers in manufacturing, retail, hospitality, you name it, they could own an important part of the market.


7 posted on 02/15/2011 12:00:07 PM PST by Jonty30
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

HP is still paying for that Carley bimbo who decided that all their profits should come from printer ink and not from technology.

Such is the fate of a company that uses sales idiots (or MBA idiots, for that matter) to run a company that actually produces things.


8 posted on 02/15/2011 12:20:19 PM PST by Da Coyote
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To: Defiant
Some good questions...guess the top level Exec's were siting around not believing words from the lower echelon...

Has happened before.

9 posted on 02/15/2011 12:41:29 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Defiant

I’ve read that several companies including HP are looking for ways to put an arm computer in parrallel with Wintel on notebooks. Need full computer power, you have 4-6 hours using the full Wintel system, need 16 hours, save your work and switch to the ARM + mobile OS running with a real keyboard and screen.

The concept sounds interesting.


10 posted on 02/15/2011 12:44:51 PM PST by dangerdoc (see post #6)
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To: Defiant
Just came across this at Digitimes...

Greater China touch panel market

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China is the world's largest producer of touch panels and China and Taiwan combined to account for close to 80% of touch modules for handsets shipped in 2010.

11 posted on 02/15/2011 12:52:13 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Defiant
Whatever webos is or isn't, Apple has created the context in which the information age dwells and into which most organizations gaze jealously from the periphery.

HP? They make a cheap and fairly reliable printer. All-in-one is handy. As an organization that satisfies customers, or can define the future? Anythings possible, right? Certainly there's the Hewlett "legacy" of fond memory. But I wouldn't bet the farm on it.

12 posted on 02/15/2011 4:06:15 PM PST by the invisib1e hand (talk to the hand)
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To: the invisib1e hand
I was addressing your comment about "mediocrity".

HP does more than make printers. They also sell, among other things, more computers than any company on earth, Apple included. They have a huge piece of the enterprise, and only that kind of leverage gives them a chance to compete at this late date. Don't be such a phanboy.

13 posted on 02/15/2011 7:45:45 PM PST by Defiant (There is no line on the march towards marxism that Democrats won't cross. Democrat=CPUSA)
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To: Defiant
I know what HP does. The observation about mediocrity is still valid-- it comes in all sizes.

don't know what that last bit means, but apparently you have pet names for anyone whose views you dont cotton to.

14 posted on 02/16/2011 6:20:41 AM PST by the invisib1e hand (talk to the hand)
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