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To: Individual Rights in NJ

I think you missed the point that the employees were trying to make.

Who determines what OS a device uses, Mangement or engineers? Who determines which models go into production, management or engineers? Who is better situtated to tell where the industry is going, managment or engineers? Who pays the price when the wrong decision is made?

Engineers follow the tech industry VERY closely - because this is what we are, who we are, and a part of our being. A business manager simply looks at numbers - and until the numbers change - they stay the course. This is why companies that exceed have engineers in Sr. Management (Intel, Apple, present-day HP) and companies that hire business “guru’s” fall aside (HP’s Carly Fiona, Nokia, Dell Computer, ect).

Bottom line, the reason that Dilbert is so popular is because a great many of the cartoons depict real life. Engineers are geeks and management are typically idiots.

The Engineers at Nokia were not given the option to program in Android - that decision was made for them by managment. Management also dictates what classes the engineers are to be sent to. Instead of training in Android, they were typically sent to classes on ‘Saving the Environment’, ‘Global Warming’, ‘Celebrating Diversity’, ‘Sensitivity of the Gay/Lesbian Lifestyle’, ‘Conflict Avoidance’, and ‘Multi-Culturalism’.

The cost of training an engineer in Android for a week, is about the same as sending him to one of these classes. Whereas the engineer would return from a class on Adroid having actually learned something; the same engineer returns from these managment dictated classes with a mind that has been closed down for a week - and a weeks’ wages have been utterly wasted.


9 posted on 02/14/2011 11:59:15 AM PST by Hodar (Who needs laws .... when this "feels" so right?)
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The Engineers at Nokia were not given the option to program in Android - that decision was made for them by managment. Management also dictates what classes the engineers are to be sent to. Instead of training in Android, they were typically sent to classes on ‘Saving the Environment’, ‘Global Warming’, ‘Celebrating Diversity’, ‘Sensitivity of the Gay/Lesbian Lifestyle’, ‘Conflict Avoidance’, and ‘Multi-Culturalism’. The cost of training an engineer in Android for a week, is about the same as sending him to one of these classes. Whereas the engineer would return from a class on Adroid having actually learned something; the same engineer returns from these managment dictated classes with a mind that has been closed down for a week - and a weeks’ wages have been utterly wasted. Well I agree with all that... but not sure what that has to do with WP7 being chosen. Also, while I understand you're an engineer and thus have A HUGE BIAS, you make some REALLY ignorant statements. Engineers don't know all the answers nor (most- outside of the glowing examples you mentioned) have even close to the correct assessment abilities about things like this and their relation to the actual business market. Do you know how much money and time is spent supporting the new "cool nerd thing" that no regular consumer people use, and thus makes it worthless to a company to implement. THAT is why companies don't put out the stuff us nerds (yes myself included) KNOW to be better. Android is garbage at this point... like Windows 2.0... It has A LONG way to go before becoming the "3rd party source" alternative to Apple OS (1st party source) that Windows eventually became in the 80's
13 posted on 02/14/2011 1:12:45 PM PST by Individual Rights in NJ (Infidel Inside)
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