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To: icwhatudo

I think the gay issue needs to be a non-issue for conservatives. I happen to believe that it is not a choice but biologically based. The openly gay people that I personally know range from apolitical, to moderate to Reagan conservative, believe it or not.


43 posted on 02/12/2011 2:41:40 PM PST by ExpatCanuck
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To: ExpatCanuck

Having said that - there is definitely a militant gay element that wants to ‘shove it down our throats’ as some posters so eloquently put it. And these folks are definitely enemies of our value system and way of life.


46 posted on 02/12/2011 2:44:51 PM PST by ExpatCanuck
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To: ExpatCanuck

With the repeal of DADT “the agenda” has gone to far from tolerance to social acceptance. I think it should be at the top of every conservatives’ agenda. Your slack attitude towards those that insert their penises into other men’s anal cavity is not surprising coming from a liberal Canadian.


48 posted on 02/12/2011 2:48:29 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.)
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To: ExpatCanuck
The "gay issue" is really quite a few issues, IMHO. One of them is privacy, which few conservatives would argue with. Another, however, is the co-option of homosexuality by social activists who wish to use it to mold society after their own precepts of morality. Standing on a soapbox in the park saying that everyone should bugger his brother is sort of amusing, but harmless enough. Going into a school under formal government approval and doing so, and worse, dismissing disagreement as "hate speech", is neither harmless nor conservative.

I think that everyone is conservative to the degree that they don't wish their own lives altered by someone else and progressive to the degree that they wish to inflict their own practices on others by coercion. That's sort of a sad definition of "progressive" but it seems accurate enough these days.

As far as nature vs. nurture with regard to human sexual behavior, I'd say the jury is pretty much still out on that one. Maybe both. I really couldn't give an intelligent opinion on it.

52 posted on 02/12/2011 2:50:19 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: ExpatCanuck
I happen to believe that it is not a choice but biologically based.

You believe that a sexual behavior is genetic? Then you think George was born to "do" the family dog and cousin Ken was born to love dead Aunt Tildie, literally, and Horace can't keep his hands off children because sexual behavior is programmed when you're born?

I'm a Conservative and believe that people make choices for behavior. I don't make excuses for them.

54 posted on 02/12/2011 2:53:06 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are at your door! How will you answer the knock?)
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To: ExpatCanuck
I think the gay issue needs to be a non-issue for conservatives. I happen to believe that it is not a choice but biologically based.

First, you have absolutely no real basis for your belief that homosexuality is biologically based, so basing the restructuring of society on some whim is silly. Second, schizophrenia is biologically based. Do we want to rearrange things so that schizophrenia is considered normal behavior, too?
92 posted on 02/12/2011 3:39:13 PM PST by fr_freak
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To: ExpatCanuck

When we’re dealing with gay activists with a homosexual agenda I think it’s unwise to consider it a non-issue.

I don’t know why people are gay, nor to I particularly care.

But I do know that their agenda is not one of live and let live, and I do care that they have no qualms about using intimidation tactics or the force of government to silence individuals.

Even GOProud, an allegedly conservative group of gay activists, has employed the tactic of leveling vicious verbal attacks against those who will not acknowledge and embrace their private, sexual behavior as normal, natural and healthy.

Again, I’m talking about the activist community and I do so because they’re the ones with the political clout driving the agenda.

Please reconsider whether or not it is a non-issue to conservatism because their agenda WILL have an impact on your ability to speak, associate and worship freely.


164 posted on 02/13/2011 1:11:53 AM PST by Nickname
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