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1 posted on 02/10/2011 3:45:41 PM PST by jd777
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I am calling for Obamas resignation.


2 posted on 02/10/2011 3:48:50 PM PST by screaminsunshine (34 States)
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Most of the positional base 10 numeral systems in the world have originated from India, where the concept of positional numerology was first developed. The Indian numeral system is commonly referred to in the West as the Hindu-Arabic numeral system or even Arabic numerals, since it reached Europe through the Arabs.
A decimal place system has been traced back to ca. 500 in India. Before that epoch, the Brahmi numeral system was in use; that system did not encompass the concept of the place-value of numbers. Instead, Brahmi numerals included additional symbols for the tens, as well as separate symbols for hundred and thousand.

The Indian place-system numerals spread to neighboring Persia, where they were picked up by the conquering Arabs. In 662, a Nestorian bishop living in what is now called Iraq said:

I will omit all discussion of the science of the Indians ... of their subtle discoveries in astronomy - discoveries that are more ingenious than those of the Greeks and the Babylonians - and of their valuable methods of calculation which surpass description. I wish only to say that this computation is done by means of nine signs. If those who believe that because they speak Greek they have arrived at the limits of science would read the Indian texts they would be convinced even if a little late in the day that there are others who know something of value.

The addition of zero as a tenth positional digit is documented from the 7th century by Brahmagupta, though the earlier Bakhshali Manuscript, written sometime before the 5th century, also included zero. But it is in Khmer numerals of modern Cambodia is where the first extant material evidence of zero as a numerical figure, dating its use back to the seventh century, is found.[4]

As it was from the Arabs that the Europeans learned this system, the Europeans called them Arabic numerals; ironically, to this day the Arabs refer to their numerals as Indian numerals. In academic circles they are called the Hindu-Arabic or Indo-Arabic numerals.


3 posted on 02/10/2011 3:49:10 PM PST by all the best
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When they stop wanting to kill me when they see my yarmulke, we can have a discussion.


4 posted on 02/10/2011 3:49:17 PM PST by Uncle Miltie ("And did you exchange a walk on part in a War, for a lead role in a cage?")
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Before you get banned, :-) thanks for the post. Husband and I were discussing the Crusades tonight at dinner. Amazed at how neither of us knew much about the history during this time. Going to start on some heavy reading.


5 posted on 02/10/2011 3:52:45 PM PST by republicangel
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Dear Islam,

What have you done for the world lately, but to harm it. Time to get over what was, and focus on what is..

Sincerely,

H.D.


6 posted on 02/10/2011 3:59:11 PM PST by Hoosier-Daddy ( "It does no good to be a super power if you have to worry what the neighbors think." BuffaloJack)
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re: the Crusades.

Islamic jihad conquered the Byzantine Empire. The Crusades were a minor counterattack.


7 posted on 02/10/2011 4:01:53 PM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion (DRAFT PALIN)
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Europeans received "zero" from Islam

And alas, now we Americans have received ZerO from Islam.

Look JD, the history of accomplishments in the Islamic world 1000 years ago is interesting, but it's completely irrelevant to the fact that hundreds of millions of modern Muslims aim to destroy civilization.

9 posted on 02/10/2011 4:07:36 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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The contributions made by arabs, semites, and middle eastern peoples should not be conflated with those made by muslime. The arabic numeral system existed long before mohammerhead came along, as did the Great Library at Alexandria, which was burned by the muslime Caliph Omar.

And whatever miraculous technological acumen the middle east could boast 2,000 years ago, it hasn't advanced much over that time. It remains mired in a mentality that western civilization overcame at least 500 years ago.

THAT is the "gift" islam has wrought.

The first book published on movable type (a western invention, by the way) was a Bible. Music as we know it today arose from Gregorian chants that praised God. Theater was an offshoot of Passion Plays that depicted various scenes from biblical history. And the triumph of individual dignity over the oppression of tyrants arose because every human is possessed of a spark of the Divine.

THOSE are the gifts of Judeo-Christianity.

Equivalency denied.

10 posted on 02/10/2011 4:12:06 PM PST by IronJack (=)
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The Muslims take credit for a lot of things that they discovered after they conquered a people. In truth, they’re idiots.


11 posted on 02/10/2011 4:15:05 PM PST by youngidiot (Don't let the name fool ya, toots.)
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To All:

Islam does not Equal Arab!

In the past - ARABS have gifted Western Civilization with priceless knowledge.

What good has islam done for the world lately?

12 posted on 02/10/2011 4:16:01 PM PST by Dacus943
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Oh, and the more I learn about Thomas Jefferson the less I like him.


14 posted on 02/10/2011 4:17:12 PM PST by youngidiot (Don't let the name fool ya, toots.)
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......We did not have a "ZERO" in our number system. Arabs gave us "0" - along with all our other arabic numerals.....

Check This Out:

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Indian mathematics emerged in the Indian subcontinent[1] from 1200 BCE [2] until the end of the 18th century. In the classical period of Indian mathematics (400 AD to 1200 AD), important contributions were made by scholars like Aryabhata, Brahmagupta, and Bhaskara II. The decimal number system in use today[3] and the binary number system[4] were first recorded in Indian mathematics.[5] Indian mathematicians made early contributions to the study of the concept of zero as a number,[6] negative numbers,[7] arithmetic, and algebra.[8] In addition, trigonometry[9] was further advanced in India, and, in particular, the modern definitions of sine and cosine were developed there.[10] These mathematical concepts were transmitted to the Middle East, China, and Europe[8] and led to further developments that now form the foundations of many areas of mathematics.
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Click the link to learn more.

There are no Arabic numerals. It's a misnomer.
Even the Arabs call them The Hindu Numerals

You need to check your "facts".

16 posted on 02/10/2011 4:30:43 PM PST by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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Incomplete and selective history is self-serving history, often revised by islam, which claims everything under the sun was “discovered” or invented by them.
To POST self-serving revisionist history is...self serving. My question is why?


19 posted on 02/10/2011 4:40:29 PM PST by MestaMachine (Note: I do NOT capitalize anything I don't respect...like obama and/or islam..)
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3@me.

Ha.


20 posted on 02/10/2011 4:41:14 PM PST by bayouranger (The 1st victim of islam is the person who practices the lie.)
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"In Rome they cried: "CRUSADE"

Actually, "crusade" was the reply to "jihad."

In your rush to credit all things good to islam you completely omitted Constantinople and the eastern Roman empire. That city retained much of Rome (art, science, medicine , architecture, etc.) that was lost in the west and it served as a jumping-off point for many of the Crusades. It must have been a major eye-opener for the Franks.

My contention is that islam picked the bones of the civilizations it overran and didn't originate much.

22 posted on 02/10/2011 5:03:39 PM PST by Flag_This (Real presidents don't bow.)
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ping for later comments,


24 posted on 02/10/2011 5:04:50 PM PST by pgobrien (Obama couldn't lead people out of a burning building.....)
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To: jd777; SunkenCiv
The great Library in Cordoba had 400,000 volumes.There - europeans recived their own heritage back.

There were probably many "civilizations" that were lost along with the knowledge they had amassed. Either the evidence is under ground, or, more likely, under water.

Regardless, from what I can tell, this vanity doesn't really touch on the harm caused by the spread of Islam. Will that be a subject for a future post?

25 posted on 02/10/2011 5:24:39 PM PST by fanfan (Why did they bury Barry's past?)
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Islam gave us nothing but misery.
Greek scholars kept as muslim slaves gave us the the mathematics and science that the muslims claim as theirs.


27 posted on 02/10/2011 6:19:01 PM PST by BuffaloJack (Re-Elect President Sarah Palin 2016)
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What the Muslims did not destroy in the initial conquests, or destroy for being sacrilegious, they eventually learned to compile. Those complilations that were not then destroyed by other fanatical Muslims were sometime captured by Christians. Hence Indian concepts like Zero and Algebra came to Latin Christendom.

PS. People forget that the Eastern Roman Empire survive until 1453. It just didn't share with the descendants of those who sacked Rome.

33 posted on 02/10/2011 11:25:42 PM PST by rmlew (You want change? Vote for the most conservative electable in your state or district.)
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“And the Great Mosque nearby were 1000 times greater than anything ever built to that time in all of Christendom.”

An update to that, would it surprise you that there was a massive Christian church at the time, have you ever heard of “Hagia Sophia?” or the Church of the Holy Wisdom or Holy Spirit of God? That was the BIG church at the time during the dark ages.


34 posted on 02/11/2011 4:05:48 AM PST by Biggirl ("The Best Of Times, The Worse Of Times", Charles Dickens)
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