VANITY; Islam gave us "Zero".

2/10/11 | Self

[353FMG]

>Time to get over what was, and focus on what is..<

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Dear H.D.

No way. Why move to the 21st century when the Koran was written in the 7th? Convert or die!

Sincerely,

Islam

[Flag_This]

"In Rome they cried: "CRUSADE"

Actually, "crusade" was the reply to "jihad."

In your rush to credit all things good to islam you completely omitted Constantinople and the eastern Roman empire. That city retained much of Rome (art, science, medicine , architecture, etc.) that was lost in the west and it served as a jumping-off point for many of the Crusades. It must have been a major eye-opener for the Franks.

My contention is that islam picked the bones of the civilizations it overran and didn't originate much.

[majormaturity]

Correct. They stole books and texts from the libraries of the time and branded them as their own. The only difference between Muslims today and then is that back then, they had the smarts to steal the material and then claim it as their own; today they simply destroy it because the “We invented it” BS doesn't fly anymore.

[pgobrien]

ping for later comments,

[fanfan]

The great Library in Cordoba had 400,000 volumes.There - europeans recived their own heritage back.

There were probably many "civilizations" that were lost along with the knowledge they had amassed. Either the evidence is under ground, or, more likely, under water.

Regardless, from what I can tell, this vanity doesn't really touch on the harm caused by the spread of Islam. Will that be a subject for a future post?

[SunkenCiv]

They sure did — Zero’s in the White House.

But seriously, zero was “invented” in India, and borrowed from there by the Muzzies.

The Maya also had zero.

Many finer homes have the Subzero.

[BuffaloJack]

Islam gave us nothing but misery.
Greek scholars kept as muslim slaves gave us the the mathematics and science that the muslims claim as theirs.

[jd777]

nothing Jack? not even the Canon of medicine?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Canon_of_Medicine

[jd777]

Great point - And thank you. What about Algebra? Where did it come from?

[jd777]

I want to revise my question, and yes, this cracks me up to ask, and I wrote this GD post, but....

who was Muḥammad ibn Mūsā al-Khwārizmī?

LOL!

[jd777]

Why don't you write about the harm? That's your job, My job is to love thy neighbor as I love thyself.

Maybe you heard different?

[jd777]

Nobody else will reply - and you are perhaps the brightest poster I saw on this thread _and I respect you - so I’ll ask you a question. Who were the Cathars and why were they killed?

[rmlew]

What the Muslims did not destroy in the initial conquests, or destroy for being sacrilegious, they eventually learned to compile. Those complilations that were not then destroyed by other fanatical Muslims were sometime captured by Christians. Hence Indian concepts like Zero and Algebra came to Latin Christendom.

PS. People forget that the Eastern Roman Empire survive until 1453. It just didn't share with the descendants of those who sacked Rome.

[Biggirl]

“And the Great Mosque nearby were 1000 times greater than anything ever built to that time in all of Christendom.”

An update to that, would it surprise you that there was a massive Christian church at the time, have you ever heard of “Hagia Sophia?” or the Church of the Holy Wisdom or Holy Spirit of God? That was the BIG church at the time during the dark ages.

[Madame Dufarge]

"You state, 'its mathematicians created the algebra and algorithms that would enable the building of computers, and the creation of encryption.' The fundamental basis of modern mathematics had been laid down not hundreds but thousands of years before by Assyrians and Babylonians, who already knew of the concept of zero, of the Pythagorean Theorem, and of many, many other developments expropriated by Arabs/Muslims (see History of Babylonian Mathematics, Neugebauer)."

What Arab Civilization?

[all the best]

Hope this helps. Best regards. While the word algebra comes from the Arabic language (al-jabr, الجبر literally, restoration) and much of its methods from Arabic mathematics, its roots can be traced to earlier traditions, most notably ancient Indian mathematics, which had a direct influence on Muhammad ibn Mūsā al-Khwārizmī (c. 780–850). He learned Indian mathematics and introduced it to the Muslim world through his famous arithmetic text, Book on Addition and Subtraction after the Method of the Indians.[3][4] He later wrote The Compendious Book on Calculation by Completion and Balancing, which established algebra as a mathematical discipline that is independent of geometry and arithmetic.[5] The roots of algebra can be traced to the ancient Babylonians,[6] who developed an advanced arithmetical system with which they were able to do calculations in an algorithmic fashion. The Babylonians developed formulas to calculate solutions for problems typically solved today by using linear equations, quadratic equations, and indeterminate linear equations. By contrast, most Egyptians of this era, as well as Greek and Chinese mathematicians in the 1st millennium BC, usually solved such equations by geometric methods, such as those described in the Rhind Mathematical Papyrus, Euclid's Elements, and The Nine Chapters on the Mathematical Art. The geometric work of the Greeks, typified in the Elements, provided the framework for generalizing formulae beyond the solution of particular problems into more general systems of stating and solving equations, though this would not be realized until the medieval Muslim mathematicians. The Hellenistic mathematicians Hero of Alexandria and Diophantus [7] as well as Indian mathematicians such as Brahmagupta continued the traditions of Egypt and Babylon, though Diophantus' Arithmetica and Brahmagupta's Brahmasphutasiddhanta are on a higher level.[8] For example, the first complete arithmetic solution (including zero and negative solutions) to quadratic equations was described by Brahmagupta in his book Brahmasphutasiddhanta. Later, Arabic and Muslim mathematicians developed algebraic methods to a much higher degree of sophistication. Although Diophantus and the Babylonians used mostly special ad hoc methods to solve equations, Al-Khwarizmi was the first to solve equations using general methods. He solved the linear indeterminate equations, quadratic equations, second order indeterminate equations and equations with multiple variables.

[aruanan]

VANITY; Islam gave us "Zero".

No, it didn't. A type of notation indicating zero was used by the Sumerians about 3000 BC. It was carried to India by the Greeks and was brought by Arab merchants back from India. It was independently invented by the Mayans around 4 AD. There is very little of anything of worth created by Islamic culture but a huge deal expropriated from the cultures it conquered. Algebra is an example. It began in ancient Egypt and Babylon. Just because it later had an Arabic name applied to it doesn't mean it was of Islamic origin.

Back to the books for you.

[Biggirl]

Plus now, we have the internet to back-up as a way to fight against such “bs”.

[Biggirl]

Also in Alexandra Egypt, there is a new Great Library and as a matter of fact, there are young people who are guarding it against any possible trouble.

[IronJack]

The Cathars (not the name they chose for themselves, by the way) were a dualistic pseudo-Christian sect that flourished in medieval France. They were heavily persecuted by the Catholic Church, resulting in their virtual eradication during the Albigensian Crusade.

They were exterminated because their theology was inconsistent to the point of heresy with the ruling religious authority of the time.

That was in the Thirteenth Century.

On Sept. 11, 2001, a band of muslime madmen hijacked four jet aircraft and crashed them into a variety of fixed objects, resulting in the deaths of at least 3,000 innocent Americans. Then there were the London subway bombings, the assaults in Mumbai, the Bali bombings, the Madrid bombings, and a host of other murders.

Those were yesterday.

Equivalency denied. Again.