Posted on 01/22/2011 10:24:53 AM PST by Bigtigermike
I'm sick and tire some on our side buying into the myth that if we just "rise above the fray" from attacks that are scurrilous and baseless that we will somehow win the arguments against us! That's pure bull!
We are playing right into the hands of the MSM and liberals when we act civil and honorable "according to their rules of acting civil and honorable" which is to shut up and sit down about conservatism and not fight back. The only kind of people that the left and MSM consider honorable are people like Bob Dole and John McCain both of whom lost by not fighting.
Speaking of McCain, notice how 'civil' he was in 2008 "[Senator Obama] is a decent person and a person that you do not have to be scared about as President of the United States,". There's a difference between rhetoric and record, but you can still be respectful," McCain said to one questioner. "I will point out his record and I will do it with respect."
Did Obama act respectful and civil? Linking President Bush and Senator John McCain as partners in “the failed policies” of the past seven years and criticizing them for “hypocrisy, fear peddling, fear mongering.”? "They're going to try to make you afraid of me. They're going to say you know what, "He's young and inexperienced and he's got a funny name. Did I mention he's black?"
The MSM called McCain's rallies vitriolic and tinged with racism and hateful but said that Obama has run a clean, non-slanderous campaign and deserves respect. He is the one that wishes to address the issues and look how wonderful Obama is, he will help heal the nation.!!!
What happened in 2008 is almost happening in 2011 with the attacks on Sarah over the Tucson attacks; Barack Obama stood back for days and let his supporters in the media and left rip Palin apart, only then to proclaim that we don't really know what happened in Tuscon and let the media narrative was how wonderful Obama is!
But this time Sarah fought back after a few days and only had a few choice towards the media, and the left and media STILL ATTACKED HER OVER IT'!
If all the others here or pundits like Dick Morris or even FOX NEWS are gonna sit around and watch this happen and say "don't do nothing" or be tepid in a response at best then they need a brain analysis. If Conservatives cannot defend themselves over these baseless, libelous charges then they got no business running. period!
Some people like to think of Jesus as a weak push over who begs for us to love Him. He is the commander of the armies of Heaven. He cut us a real big break when He was here the first time. Not going to be that way the second.
No. You personally attacted a fellow FReeper with lies. If you truly meant "We seem so ready and willing to make an argument out of anything. The willingness to take offense is foremost in our conversations." you would have said so in your post #7.
But you didn't. You attacked CCL with A LIE. You NEED to apologize to him, now!
Democrats call for civility when you’re winning the argument.
Be dignified, be principled, but never stop pushing to turn this ship around and get the pirates out of the wheelhouse.
Your political opponents who are otherwise decent and respectful of the rule of law, you treat with great civility because however wrong they are on a given issue they are still your brothers.
People who don’t believe in either constitutions nor rule of law are white-collar criminals who need to be defeated and driven from office, preferably into prison.
Where did you get that from?
Yukon has no posts;
You're like the caller to Rush's show: 'Rush Limbaugh, I don't like your tone!'
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=253949
This BS from the state run media is a ploy to get the Right to shut up plain and simple.
We need to go on offense BEFORE they attack, make THEM respond I agree, we spend too much time trying to defend what we say or do. We should be forcing the liberals to defend what they do and say. A perfect opportunity was the Tucson shooting.
We should have immediately agreed that political language could have influenced the shooter. It was evident almost immediately that the nut was a left wing nut. Atheist, pothead, probably gender confused, liked Marx, liked flag burning. A regular caricature of a leftist. We had ample examples of incendiary statements of prominent leftists, including Obama, that could have influenced the leftist shooter. This is how every question should have been answered. Palin should not have even answered attacks against her but should have decried the leftist hate speech that caused this left wing nut to kill.
Offense, Offense, Offense. We need more Patons and fewer Chamberlains. If Republicans don't grow up and realize that we are in a serious bare knuckle fight with a determined enemy, we will have no chance of victory.
Yes, and many don’t understand the meaning of self righteousness: finding right in the self.
Avoiding the trap is very simple—submission to the only true authority.
Besides, it is our women (loosly speaking)that are threatened and we should rise in chilvaric fashion to the rescue!
I can’t speak for George Washington, but I certainly agree with him. There is no situational conflict where you can let the other side set all the rules and expect to win. The old “Just fall down and cover up until they get tired of kicking you in the head” ploy is for losers. Only angels are above they fray, as long as you live and breathe you are part of the equation.
I’d say we are heading for a secession of several states followed by a real “civil” war to preserve the socialist union. Lead will probably replace words.
That is sort of odd, but there is a great deal truth to that. Imagine: defeating the most powerful army in the world without cussing or raising his voice. We just can't seem to do that anymore.
Politics is war. Carpet bombing, superior fire power, stealth, et al is needed. The GELDINGS in the GOP are LOSERS.
This is a lot like when we’re told to cooperate during robberies. You end up with emoboldened criminals.
“If we are ‘surgical’ in our responses, and truthful and incisive, we will come out on top.” Quotes w/citations! Youtube videos!
Not too sure about the speak softly part. Bill O’Reilly drove Whoopee and Joy so crazy by shouting over them that they stormed offstage. That demonstrated that they ran out of ammo and couldn’t effectively cope.
Really? What would “Jangis Kahn” do? Run along little fella and let the grown ups fight to preserve freedom. You’re just getting underfoot.
You can remain passive while enjoying the protection of your betters.
Yes, heaven forbid a warrior should ever cuss!
Sheesh...
Prove this thesis.
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