Posted on 01/22/2011 10:24:53 AM PST by Bigtigermike
I'm sick and tire some on our side buying into the myth that if we just "rise above the fray" from attacks that are scurrilous and baseless that we will somehow win the arguments against us! That's pure bull!
We are playing right into the hands of the MSM and liberals when we act civil and honorable "according to their rules of acting civil and honorable" which is to shut up and sit down about conservatism and not fight back. The only kind of people that the left and MSM consider honorable are people like Bob Dole and John McCain both of whom lost by not fighting.
Speaking of McCain, notice how 'civil' he was in 2008 "[Senator Obama] is a decent person and a person that you do not have to be scared about as President of the United States,". There's a difference between rhetoric and record, but you can still be respectful," McCain said to one questioner. "I will point out his record and I will do it with respect."
Did Obama act respectful and civil? Linking President Bush and Senator John McCain as partners in “the failed policies” of the past seven years and criticizing them for “hypocrisy, fear peddling, fear mongering.”? "They're going to try to make you afraid of me. They're going to say you know what, "He's young and inexperienced and he's got a funny name. Did I mention he's black?"
The MSM called McCain's rallies vitriolic and tinged with racism and hateful but said that Obama has run a clean, non-slanderous campaign and deserves respect. He is the one that wishes to address the issues and look how wonderful Obama is, he will help heal the nation.!!!
What happened in 2008 is almost happening in 2011 with the attacks on Sarah over the Tucson attacks; Barack Obama stood back for days and let his supporters in the media and left rip Palin apart, only then to proclaim that we don't really know what happened in Tuscon and let the media narrative was how wonderful Obama is!
But this time Sarah fought back after a few days and only had a few choice towards the media, and the left and media STILL ATTACKED HER OVER IT'!
If all the others here or pundits like Dick Morris or even FOX NEWS are gonna sit around and watch this happen and say "don't do nothing" or be tepid in a response at best then they need a brain analysis. If Conservatives cannot defend themselves over these baseless, libelous charges then they got no business running. period!
If this is the case then NO ONE no one should listen to or vote for the Democrats.
In the late ‘70’s I became aware of the Liberal tendency to call ANYONE who merely disagreed with them- on ANY issue great or small- “evil”, “stupid”, “Fascist”. “A Nazi” etc.
Personal anger is cancer of the soul. Righteous anger is allegiance to God. Reagen was (righteously) angry a lot. It motivated him to go into politics in the first place. It informed every thing he said and did running for and as President of the United States.
McCain was trying to ACT civilized in the last election, emphasis on ‘act’. His motivation was not thoughtful, rather it was likely fear of or an attempt to manipulate the MSM. Reagan WAS civilized, in the manner of Washington et al. “Acting” involves superficialities. “Being” goes to the soul.
Not just entitlements, AGENCIES that make rules that have the force of law, which destroy business, energy, free enterprise, manufacturing; also all these CZARS who have staffs, who make up yet more regulations that nobody voted for, strangling the country.
There was this disgusting pig leftist who sat amongst my friends while we were discussing a story about a local woman who tortured and murdered her 3 year old daughter.
The rodent’s response:
“All this anger towards this woman when Christ said to turn the other cheek. Amazing how it takes an atheist like me to point out the scripture to you. This woman needs therapy not prison.”
We told it off and IT felt more self-righteous than ever.
I was NOT accusing the poster of anything! I was reminding him that engaging in Christian discourse is to use the best language possible. Many claim to be good Christians, and then verbally abuse their opponents. I was merely adding point of thought to the list of things to do when "pshing back".
Everyone wants to take issue with others so badly that they manufacture causes.
Washinghton was first and most importantly a field General at war with a superior enemy.
Unfortunately, we are being backed into a corner of speech control. Their language use in not "skillful." We lost the language war by complacently allowing "hate speech" and "hate crimes" into our judicial system. Recapturing unrestricted use of language is ESSENTIAL for maintaining our freedom.
See my post #64.
This is what I am talking about! You are perfectly willing to manufacture ill will out of nothing except mistaken intent. What ever happened to the benefit ouf the doubt. We eat our own kind. How can we converse politely with those with whom we have issues?
I thought about reporting your post as a blatant lie....but decided against it.
The light needs to shine upon such untruths. You did what you did and now deny it. I LOVE the fact that everyone can see your lies, out in the open.
You can’t explain your way out of your post #7. You accused a fellow FReeper with lies. Shame on you.
Let me add, when I heard Hannity ask a Tea Party member if we are racists I immediately turned him off. I tired of the defending baseless claims. Damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead!
Calling someone a snake is a deliberate insult. It is not a pristine and impersonal Biblical metaphor.
Yes, George Washington would agree.
There’s only one high road, and it’s not the road of man.
When we go around thinking ours is the high road, we will only fail.
Fighting for truth can be done God’s way. But self-righteousness puts us on the other side, sometimes without even knowing it.
That was my first thought, always be above the fray so you have the best vantage point.
I’m very conservative but I don’t run around pushing my beliefs on people because it can’t be done. I’ve watched vocal right-wingers and left-wingers leave their audiences cold. I bide my time and many, many times I have just the right opportunity to state the truth when people are receptive.
It is the same way with religion. People HATE people running around asking “Are you saved?”. My SIL has so many people backed into a corner about religion that they just don’t want to admit that they even are Christian.
I think we lost this war because we were too apathetic to push back in any manner. We awoke to find ourselves right in the middle of a very peculiar and spectacular difference place. If we would have insisted that our representatives actually represented us, we would not be in the predicument we all face.
It was not the lack of harshness of language, it was the total lack of expressing any dissent that got us here.
Exactly!!
"We eat our own kind"? Who is "we", because the only person here that I see intentionally causing dissension is you.
Yea, she might as well say what’s she’s going to say. They are going to tear her up no matter what she does. Or what conservatives do for that matter.
This is the easiest of all traps in which to fall.
It is like conservatives hand cuff their self and then wonder why or how it is they are doing the ‘right’ thing and losing freedoms and monies, and rights. Staying in the game expecting to win when the other side plays dirty, cheats, does whatever it takes to WIN.
This is how it has been for some number of years and getting more blatantly obvious all the time. Once we lose the middle undecided, we may not recover in America. SAD and True!
I agree. We need to go on the offensive. Leftist social and fiscal policy have been disasters. Sexual liberalism has left millions of children in broken homes many who are destined for prison before they even reach adulthood. Liberalism has destroyed our education system and caused the costs to sky rocket. Attack them with studies, attack them with science. A lot of why the left dominates is they release an endless stream of politically motivated liberal science which is then parroted by the media ad nauseum. We need to have them responding to us and we need to make better arguments and not be afraid. We have the truth on our side. It is why even though the left dominates academia, media, and pop culture we still are the largest political group. That didn’t happen by being quiet and playing nice it came from challenging liberal dogma. The only reason self identified conservatives aren’t an even bigger group is because we still far too often play by the rules of the left. We start out from their premises and only try to moderate them rather than expose them as baseless crap.
Complacency has been our biggest enemy.
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.