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To: butterdezillion; wintertime

Maobama will be long out of office after his second term before anyone ever proves that his birth certificate issue, if it is an issue, is a valid issue. He will be on the communist talk TV programs talking down to us about how lucky we were to have him—that is if he hasn’t declared himself president for life. In case you were too busy Christmas shopping, the spineless Republicans were busy giving him back his momentum during the 2010 lame duck. In case you’re too busy attacking people who don’t march in lock step with your one issue conspiracy theory(and it may be truly a valid issue—there, happy?) RINOs on capitol hill are busy trying to co-opt and diminish the TEA Party supported newly elected representatives and senators so said RINOs can continue to dance to the Potomac Two Step. In case you were otherwise preoccupied with your one issue one horse race, oil prices have shot up in part because the dictator has decreed that there won’t be any oil drilling in US territory-unless George Soros is getting the benefit thru his ties to Petrobas and Mexispic (or whatever the hell they call their mexican oil company). The list of his travesties goes on and on and on and the items are iminently provable. What has that proof gotten? So I may agree with your conspiracy theory on the birth certificate issue, so what? When will that outweigh anything else the turd in chief is/has done and topple him out of office in shame——probably never. Enjoy your day and your conspiracy.


108 posted on 01/23/2011 2:46:21 AM PST by RushLake (Liberalism/Progressivism--Domestic terrorism financed by your tax dollars.)
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To: RushLake
Uh?...Maybe if we had been focused on the **fundamentals** we wouldn't have Obama and his eligibility problems sitting in the White House.

What are the fundamentals? Answer: The Constitution and the rule of law!

And...It does seem that the birthers can multi-task. Look at the results of the 2010 election.

So...No, I don't think you will get the birthers to shut up about Obama’s eligibility. Why? Answer: Because having a natural born citizen sitting in the White House is **FUNDAMENTAL** to the Constitution and the rule of law!

109 posted on 01/23/2011 3:35:31 AM PST by wintertime (Re: Obama, Rush Limbaugh said, "He was born here." ( So? Where's the proof?))
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To: RushLake
Enjoy your day and your conspiracy.
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Fact: There is no conspiracy on the part of the birthers.

Fact: It is a simple matter to prove or disprove one’s natural born citizenship.

Fact: Obama has been politely asked by some American citizens. A few of those citizens have been military officers.

Fact: The **only** evidence available of Obama’s eligibility have been a few Internet images of a dubious origin, highly massaged statements from Fukino that say nothing, and hearsay from Lingle.

Fact: A **real** American president would be **HONORED** to promptly prove with *all* of the *best* evidence that he was a natural born citizen. He would be especially pleased to do this for the military.

110 posted on 01/23/2011 3:42:48 AM PST by wintertime (Re: Obama, Rush Limbaugh said, "He was born here." ( So? Where's the proof?))
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To: RushLake

You don’t seem to understand where I’m coming from.

Congress needs to be working on undoing the garbage the illegal usurper has already done and would like to keep doing - and we have a R majority in the House that seems intent on doing that, and some good freshmen in the Senate who are also committed to that. I am not urging Congress to do anything on the eligibility issue; they’ve got other priorities, like you say.

But this is a state issue, as the CRS said. The states decide what protocols and procedures they will use in order to choose their presidential electors. And that includes the way that they will ascertain that the person their elector is pledged to vote for is Constitutionally eligible to be POTUS.

All we need is for one state to enact a law such as the one I have suggested, and then the whole country can know that the obstacles keeping the whole country from being able to LEGALLY vet the candidate have been dealt with. That is what I am urging everyone to make sure that at least one state does, in time for it to be in effect for the 2012 election.

How can anybody have a gripe with that? It takes NOTHING away from Congress’ efforts to undo the other stuff, which I also support. We’ve been hit with a multi-pronged attack and we have to win on all fronts. Fighting this front is doing NOTHING to damage any other front. By directing the battle to the states where the people have more influence, I’m actually working to clear this issue AWAY from Congress so they can deal with undoing the damage already done.

If your big issue is RINO’s, the most effective way for us to get them (and everybody else) to actually implement the will of their constituents is to break down the monopoly and power of the media-politician cabal in DC. If the truth was ever fully known on this one issue it would send shock waves that would impact that cabal for a long, long time.

In fact, Jeff Kuhner is saying that the media people say they won’t touch this issue precisely because they know that it would have such huge implications for everything. IOW, they say it matters TOO MUCH. This isn’t piddles. This gets to the very rule of law and the very idea that government is accountable to the PEOPLE. That is the essence of what America and our Constitution are all about. In a rubber-hits-the-road way, this issue IS the Constitution, and the politicians and media all know it, which is why they fear it.

And that is precisely why those politicians and media need to be met head-on. We can not let the Constitution die within our lifetime. If we want our kids to have any earthly future in this place, we need to fight for them right now, by getting our state legislators to pass the right bill.


112 posted on 01/23/2011 10:28:25 AM PST by butterdezillion
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