The screen is not as good on the mid816. I’ve been using a computer for years, as I’m sure you and everyone else has, and I’ve never had to touch the screen at all in order to do something. I’d rather have flash - which the mid816 does have, and the people who have the mid816 are happy with it - than a cooler, better screen. I want the whole internet - the mid816 provides it for less than half the price of the ipad - and the ipad doesn’t provide flash. It’s aware flash exists, is aware that flash is a critical part of the internet, is aware that cheap generic android tabs are doing flash well, and apple is still not putting flash on their $500 ipads? Ridiculous. And those people defending Apple on this are just delusional.
I understand that apple is reluctant to put flash on for battery reasons. Android users would know how to turn on and off the flash, Apple users wouldn’t.
Flash is an internet technology. If the handhelds can’t handle the existing internet, it’s on them. Flash was around before handhelds, before the iphone ipad. we’ve had this argument before I think.
You have this belief that because Apple doesn’t want to do something, that thing isn’t worth doing. Completely irrational, and a reason why people call Apple fanboys cultists. The fanboys can’t separate themselves from the Applecult.
There OBVIOUSLY is something wrong with Apple not supporting Flash on their handhelds. It’s not a debateable point. But the fanboys insist that it’s actually better that the Apple devices don’t have what all standard computers have and what the newest android devices have.
I do think that the Apple gadgets are cool. They’re always so well designed. Year in, year out, really good looking gadgets. No other computer hardware manufacturer comes close. And they’ve led / innovated in many of these categories - media player, tablet, smartphone. So they have that.
But I don’t like their attitude. People who are less than competent with computers, or gadgets seem to like apple. These apple fans seem to be the kind of people who would rather have half of something if it’s really really easy to get that half then people who want all of it, even it its tricky or complicated or difficult to get.
- yes the screen is cheaper
- this device is far cheaper than the ipad. $200-$250 vs $500. so, yes, it comes with an internal 4gb. but you can replace that microsd card easily. 16 gb class 10 cards are available for $35. It supports 32gb on the internal and 32 on the external for a total of 64. But the real point I’m trying to make is that the removable microsd card hard drive is a very interesting feature. You could have custom applications on different hard drives. You could have just mp3s on one, applications on another, depending on what you were planning on doing. But I’m not sure exactly why this device really needs so much space. Of course, you can attach this device to your computer and swap files back and forth.
- some more info on the processor. I’m not an expert on this processor, but they all say it’s fast, so I’m guessing
that any of the generic tablets running it are fast.
http://www.slatedroid.com/unlisted-cortex-a8-tablets/new-s5pc210-7’-capacitive-tablets/
Sorry, Flash is NOT a critical part of the internet... it is ancillary... and getting less and less useful. I don't miss seeing Flash ads on the Internet. I don't need to play Flash Games, and what Flash video there is, is unimportant.
As to the screen being less important than Flash... the angle of view on that MID816 is only about 40º... anything out of that angle loses color and drops out of clarity rapidly. That means it is uncomfortable to view and means it's awkward to share viewing with anyone. . . and even difficult to use except at a specific angle. EVEN using it except at a specific distance with TWO EYES is difficult as the colors will be different between each eye. The screens on the MID816 are junk.
I understand that apple is reluctant to put flash on for battery reasons. Android users would know how to turn on and off the flash, Apple users wouldn’t.
Flash is an internet technology. If the handhelds can’t handle the existing internet, it’s on them. Flash was around before handhelds, before the iphone ipad. we’ve had this argument before I think.
You have this belief that because Apple doesn’t want to do something, that thing isn’t worth doing. Completely irrational, and a reason why people call Apple fanboys cultists. The fanboys can’t separate themselves from the Applecult.
There OBVIOUSLY is something wrong with Apple not supporting Flash on their handhelds. It’s not a debateable point. But the fanboys insist that it’s actually better that the Apple devices don’t have what all standard computers have and what the newest android devices have.
No, it should NOT BE NECESSARY in a proper user interface... and FLASH makes it necessary on a battery powered mobile device. That is the problem Truth... Go to a webpage... Oh, I need to turn on Flash to see this page... leave the page... Oh, I need to turn off flash or my battery will drain in an hour! That is NOT USER FRIENDLY. A Geek might like that a but a user would be pissed as all get out when his phone is dead an hour later when he needs to make a phone call... especially on a multitasking device that leaves the Flash app running in the background along with the browser... or with some Android flash apps, just running with out the browser. Good luck, average user.
Flash as a general app requires mouse over and keyboard inputs, and floating menus that operate from such mouse overs and expected a keyboard touch... and touch screen interfaces do not have either a mouse or a separate keyboard... so how do you expect Flash to interpret that input? You have to fake it... and that doesn't work well. So, you need a two level Flash script... those with Mobile device design in mind, and those without... and many will never be rewritten and will not work at all with mobile devices. Too bad for those. . . they will not work with Mobile apps, no matter how much you want them to. Some Flash games work, many will not. Most Flash video will... but why not just convert the video to an open standard that works with everything. THAT is happening.
Flash is also riddled with security holes... and they have NOT BEEN closed. It is one of the primary ways that malware enters computers. Why open up the iPhone and iPad to those security issues? It also the source of frequent crashes... Why ask for that?
Just leave Flash behind like the floppy disk and those problems go away.
Of course not. We haven't been using touch tablets. But touch tablets happen to be the current subject.
It’s aware flash exists, is aware that flash is a critical part of the internet
Flash is old, broken and replaceable. I say this as a former Flash developer. The only reason it got so popular was that it got included with most browsers, so it was what most people wrote to. I was against Flash before the iPhone because of its bugginess and security issues. Back then it was the #1 thing to slow down or crash my PC's web browser, IE or Firefox on Windows.
I want the whole internet - the mid816 provides it
Nope. The Android Flash player doesn't work with much of the Flash content on the Internet. That has to be rewritten since it is designed to use mouse tracking and hovers, which don't exist in touch.
I understand that apple is reluctant to put flash on for battery reasons. Android users would know how to turn on and off the flash, Apple users wouldn’t.
In the interest of being user friendly, Apple doesn't want users to have to bother. And no you don't just turn Flash on and off. You hit a web site with it, you use Flash. That is if that web site has rewritten that Flash to work with handhelds.
But I don’t like their attitude.
I've been hating Apple's attitudes for years, especially in the legal department. I have at times come to the opinion that Apple should have some copyrights stripped due to their gross abuse of them. My defense comes from the products, not from any Apple love.
People who are less than competent with computers, or gadgets seem to like apple.
I'm a Windows user since 2.0, and a long-time Windows developer and systems admin. I've run a rather large number of Windows servers. I switched to Mac a few years ago mainly because I wanted a modern OS without the headache I was paid to deal with at work.
even it its tricky or complicated or difficult to get.
You just described the Mac. It's brain-dead easy for 99% of what people want. For the rest you can drop down into the UNIX terminal. I wanted to customize some power settings in ways that the GUI wouldn't do, so I dropped to Terminal and learned the "pmset" command.
this device is far cheaper than the ipad. $200-$250 vs $500
Did you know that when it came out, Apple's parts cost for the iPad was estimated at around $250? That doesn't count corporate overhead, advertising, customer service, R&D, and paying off that $400 million worth of chip designer acquisitions.