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Which is better, iPhone or Android?
OC Register ^ | 1-20-2011 | edcoil

Posted on 01/20/2011 9:58:08 AM PST by artificial intelligence

To the average consumer, the war between iPhone and Android is probably very confusing.

Most people don’t know there’s a difference between a “Droid” and an “Android” phone or why these new phones are so different from what came before.

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To: truthfreedom

Eventually, Flash will be seen as “You still use that?” just like the embedded Java applets you used to see all the time, but are practically gone now (I used to write those too).


101 posted on 01/22/2011 8:18:15 AM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: truthfreedom
Are you saying that youtube videos that are embedded on webpages do play on the ipad, because typically those youtube videos are no longer flash but are h264?

Yes... In addition, there is a flash app that can be downloaded that will play non-game, non-interactive flash content without the battery hit if a user wants it.

102 posted on 01/22/2011 11:31:45 AM PST by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft product "insult" free zone.)
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To: antiRepublicrat
don't forget animated gifs all over the place. but flash is still there now, and it isn't up to apple to pick and choose, or it shouldn't be. I want to make the decision about the flash myself. I do remember the days when flash was first becoming popular and rock bands all had to have a flash intro to their websites. Never liked it. Back then it was somewhat complicated to get flash to get indexed on search engines. And then bands, after removing all the indexable content from their site, become creative with the punctuation in the
103 posted on 01/22/2011 11:35:04 AM PST by truthfreedom
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To: truthfreedom
don't forget animated gifs all over the place.

What makes you think the iPad doesn't play animated gifs???

104 posted on 01/22/2011 12:17:11 PM PST by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft product "insult" free zone.)
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To: Swordmaker

not saying that. just saying - things that used to be all over the internet and have pretty much disappeared. I saw a website with a 1996 style today and it was pretty funny. With the words on fire and everything.


105 posted on 01/22/2011 12:29:51 PM PST by truthfreedom
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To: truthfreedom
It has been tested to work with 16gb cards. . . that’s a link to custom system images you can download and install on your hard drive.

Oh, WOW... I can just see the average consumers going through all of that... not. You just don't get it. This is NOT what people want to do. They are NOT GEEKS. They don't want to work ON their tablets, they want to work WITH their tablets... this piece of junk requires hours of work just to get it to work. The iPad works out of the box. No tweaking, no opening the case and installation of a purchased extra card, no nothing. That's excellent user experience. People pay for that.

106 posted on 01/22/2011 12:30:50 PM PST by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft product "insult" free zone.)
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To: Swordmaker

I do get it though.

Some want one thing, others want another.

You’re making your case for the product or product category that you like, I’m making the case for a different product category where good is defined differently. Apple thinks excellent user experience means not glitching out, or being difficult. The Android does glitch and is more difficult but it does have the flash, and the more versatile connectors, and the ability to change out any number of full hard drives is definitely an asset.

But for those who want easy, ipad is easier. The ipad seems to have the advantage on 1) screen 2) solid, not glitchy, easy to use, all of which fall under user experience. The android has the advantage on 1) flash 2) connectors 3) price.

I’m not the first person to point out that philosophically, that’s the main difference between android and apple.


107 posted on 01/22/2011 12:39:16 PM PST by truthfreedom
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To: truthfreedom
But for those who want easy, ipad is easier. The ipad seems to have the advantage on 1) screen 2) solid, not glitchy, easy to use, all of which fall under user experience. The android has the advantage on 1) flash 2) connectors 3) price.

The iPad has the connectors for those who want them... you buy the adaptors to go with the cables you also have to buy for your tablet. Not that much more expensive. so there goes number Two. Flash WILL work on the iPad with a third party download... so there goes number One. That leaves you price... and you get a piece of junk with a crappy screen with a horrid angle of view... and a terrible user interface that requires hours of work just to keep it working, poor battery life, and requirements to dismantle and tweak the operating system it to increase the ability to hold apps which a GEEK says, and I quote, "sounds scary," fine... go for it... but, truth, don't claim it's the "equal" of the iPad in specs or abilities. It just is not and claiming it is is not the truth.

108 posted on 01/22/2011 12:54:29 PM PST by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft product "insult" free zone.)
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To: Swordmaker

No, here’s how the connector system works to Androids advantage.

You just carry your android around or your ipad. you don’t worry about carrying accessories. I’d assume you’d bring your battery charger before any connector cords, but assuming you just brought your tablet.

You’re over somewhere else - they’re tablets, portable, you certainly aren’t bringing your desktop with you. They really shine, and are most useful, somewhere else.

Anyway, you want to hook up your mid816 up to the persons nice tv. you didn’t bring any cords. What does the apple person do? The android user pulls the hdmi from the directv box, or the comcast box, or the ps3, and sticks it into the hdmi of his android tablet. Really easy, and apple can’t match it. I don’t know what the apple connector cable looks like, but I’d assume that even with the apple cable, you still might have to mess around with the hdmi cords in the back of the tv. I could be wrong. the apple cord could have a female hdmi instead of a male. I’d assume it was a male.


109 posted on 01/22/2011 1:15:20 PM PST by truthfreedom
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To: Swordmaker

Also, can you send me a link to that “flash on the ipad” thing.

Your proApple soldiers never mentioned that apple does flash.


110 posted on 01/22/2011 1:20:43 PM PST by truthfreedom
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To: truthfreedom
and it isn't up to apple to pick and choose,

It's up to every vendor to pick and choose, especially when it comes to support for proprietary plug-ins.

111 posted on 01/22/2011 2:42:31 PM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: truthfreedom
The android user pulls the hdmi from the directv box, or the comcast box, or the ps3, and sticks it into the hdmi of his android tablet. Really easy, and apple can’t match it.

Given how thick and clunky that thing is, it actually might work. But for more elegant Android devices, especially smaller ones such as the phones, the HDMI connector is too big. It's certainly too big for Apple's touch devices. You need to buy a Micro HDMI to HDMI cable, because pretty much no TV or such thing comes with one of those.

So unless you're buying thick and clunky, an Android user is pretty much in the same boat as an Apple user.

112 posted on 01/22/2011 2:56:57 PM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: antiRepublicrat

not quite same boat, but you’re right about the mini.

If you’re going to use someone elses hdmi cable hooked to the tv, you’ll need a hdmi to minihdmi adapter.

Unless they have a tv hooked up to a device using a minihdmi.

What you’re pointing out does have merit. It brings Apple closer to the android in terms of the connectivity. Both are likely to require something else, as gizmo of some sort, which you would have to bring with you, to hook to a tv. the android cord is cheaper, more disposible, and more likely to be the kind of thing people might buy a lot of knowing that they might lose a few. A minihdmi to hdmi cable cost $3-$4 total. The apple cord sounds like it’s more expensive.


113 posted on 01/22/2011 3:30:52 PM PST by truthfreedom
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To: truthfreedom
A minihdmi to hdmi cable cost $3-$4 total.

Depends on where you get your cables and what quality you want. The major Android phone makers sell them for about $20. With portable devices I feel that smaller is better. Smaller of course requires an absolute minimum of physical connectors, and requires using the most modern connectors. Apple does very well with this. I'd rather have to bring a cable in those rare times I need one than have a huge bulky device because they decided to throw in all sorts of connectors.

114 posted on 01/22/2011 3:40:12 PM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: truthfreedom
Also, can you send me a link to that “flash on the ipad” thing.

Here you go:

ipad flash app

115 posted on 01/22/2011 8:47:30 PM PST by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft product "insult" free zone.)
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To: truthfreedom
Anyway, you want to hook up your mid816 up to the persons nice tv. you didn’t bring any cords. What does the apple person do? The android user pulls the hdmi from the directv box, or the comcast box, or the ps3, and sticks it into the hdmi of his android tablet. Really easy, and apple can’t match it. I don’t know what the apple connector cable looks like, but I’d assume that even with the apple cable, you still might have to mess around with the hdmi cords in the back of the tv. I could be wrong. the apple cord could have a female hdmi instead of a male. I’d assume it was a male.

Bzzzzt! Wrong! Your MID816 has a MINI HDMI port, not an HDMI port. That requires an adaptor to connect to the standard HDMI cable that everyone else uses. The adaptor costs between $5 and $15 depending on quality. And why make assumptions about what gender the Apple adaptor has when you don't know? That just is FUD.

116 posted on 01/23/2011 12:22:10 AM PST by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft product "insult" free zone.)
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To: artificial intelligence

The most telling part of this will be when Android users confront how difficult it is to upgrade and how many things can go wrong. A recent survey showed 90% of iOS devices being on the most recent release, while Android the number was .4%.


117 posted on 01/23/2011 6:21:04 AM PST by comps4spice (Liberalism caused the Tucson massacre)
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To: Swordmaker

that appears close, it might be satisfactory for some, and it is certainly very popular with those people who do in fact want flash on their ipad. It seems like it might be time consuming, with a much worse “user experience” of flash content than the android, but perhaps the flash content transcoding is super fast and doesn’t cause delays.

Weren’t apple fanboys insisting that flash was terrible and unnecessary and that apple ipad users did not want it. This particular app isn’t flash either, it takes flash content and modifies it.


118 posted on 01/23/2011 7:28:24 AM PST by truthfreedom
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To: artificial intelligence

lol..... threads like this are endlessly amusing. In the end, the comments turn into arguments about which bikini supermodel has the nicest breasts, and why.


119 posted on 01/23/2011 7:34:24 AM PST by r9etb
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To: Swordmaker

covered already in 113. point partially ceded.

The likelihood that random person X with 720p or 1080p tv will have a hdmi/minihdmi cord already hooked to their tv is higher than tv to apple cord.

The cost of either a hdmi/minihdmi cord or hdmi/hdmi adapter is much less. They’re cheap, sub $5. For your home system, you might want a more expensive one, which you wouldn’t lose.

But you might want an extra hdmi cord or cords and an extra hdmi adapter or adapters. keep em in your car or a bag you carry with you often. They’re cheap - sub $5 - and you’ll factor in the likelihood that you’ll lose or misplace them. doesn’t really matter.

I don’t know the price of the hdmi to apple cord, but it’s unlikely, but possible, that they’re under $5


120 posted on 01/23/2011 7:35:09 AM PST by truthfreedom
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