Posted on 01/10/2011 4:55:08 PM PST by Kimmers
Wouldn’t bother me any.
By the time the government/unions and lawyers get involved plus the paid 1 day mandatory training course with lunch the cost would be prohibitive......
By the time the government/unions and lawyers get involved plus the paid 1 day mandatory training course with lunch the cost would be prohibitive......
Was Hess mad? I guess by definition.
Actually when I took that handle it was Clinton time and FR had stricter control of adult words. Then someone else took MAD-AS-HELL so here I am.
I’m a past probation officer. I’ve never heard of $2.00 tests. Redwood does provide saliva tests and urine dip stick tests. They aren’t cheap. And every positive requires GCMS confirmation. If welfare recipients tested positive, then we would have to pay for their tx. Its a lose-lose policy. God bless you..
I’ll see your random drug testing, and raise you nicotine and EtG (ethyl alcohol metabolite) testing.
Your company's health insurance and liability insurance providers don't. That's what it's all about.
We have random testing at my workplace (pharma manufacturing facility, about 1000 staff.) We have many alcohol failures annually...mostly younger folks out the night before till 2:00 AM who get called down to pee at 7:30 AM.
Let’s be fair and make all of our “public servants” provide a sample as well.
You’re not getting all wee-weed up about this, are you?
But I have a problem with allowing people to collect welfare even if they do pass a urine test. Why should they be allowed to sit at home watching Wheel of Fortune and playing Pac-Man on the computer all day while I have to get up at 5AM every morning to start my 14-hour workday?
I say that we need to do away with welfare entirely. When people fall upon hard times, let them go to their family and friends for assistance. Even the most benevolent among us will quickly change our tune when deadbeat friends and relatives show up looking for a handout.
Before there was welfare in America, did people starve to death? No, they ended up finding a way to make ends meet all by themselves.
Welfare recipients, food stamps, public housing, WIC. Oh yeah, Government workers too
If you kick all the druggies off the public dole, they’ll prolly just go out and rob the public directly and completely bypass the thieves in gov’t.
I do have a way of stopping that in its tracks though
Kind of a crap shoot, isn't it?
Random drug testing is a gross violation of ones privacy whether done by the state or an employer. The laughable part is that the most abused & deadly drug - alcohol - is rarely tested for. If health & safety is the issue, why not test for alcohol?
The solution to welfare is work. Anybody able to work gets a check ONLY if they put in 40 hours a week working for the state. If it is just keeping the parks neat & clean, that is way more than we are getting for our money now. Plus, that's 40 hours a week that they are sober. The exercise & fresh air may do them some good. Getting into the habit of working for a living will certainly be good for them.
Not necessarily. Many test for alcohol. See my post # 28.
—and an iron fist of oppression for those who suckle at the public teat.
No booze, no drugs, no ‘baccy; heck, no CASH. Let’em live in WW2 barracks, eat in messhalls, be required to attend vocational training, get job placement assistance IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR.
There should be no reason why anyone who sits on their butt for a living* should have a higher standard of living than the lowest-paid $#!+-shoveler
Some may suggest it would be like prison. Not a bad idea. Let it be EXACTLY like prison-- except for the part where, when you think you're ready or you just want out (and, necessarily, off the dole) you're free to walk out. *Obviously I'm not talking about paying jobs done from a seated position.
Which is why I don’t have a problem with it all the time. I just believe for some jobs this issue is far more important than other jobs.
I agree in theory, but after 21 years at my job (a highly professional workforce in the pharma industry,) I've seen hung over types fall down stairs. That's actually the least of our worries; a facility like ours has lots of cool toys that can kill, like vacuum chambers, low oxygen environments and explosive chemical storage areas.
Even in a fast food joint, you're dealing with automatic slicers, knives, hot surfaces...being buzzed will get you hurt.
True, I guess I was more concerned about the worker hurting other people rather than themselves. But yeah put it this way, if they did and it was found they were drunk or high the hell it would be covered by insruance. I’d sue to get any money back for them coming to work that way. I wouldn’t hold the employer liable or their insurance.
You need to press REWIND on two fronts:
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