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Foreign Born Holders of COLB

Posted on 12/27/2010 4:58:06 PM PST by jlfitz

I attended the trial of LTC Lakin. After returning home I posted some comments at a web site address I got while at the trial. I am deep into it now and I am the only "birther" being attacked by a pack of lawyers. Needless to say I am outgunned. The problem is I said Maya Soetoro and Chiang kai-shek both have COLBs, which I read on this site. Now I am being told to prove it. Can anybody out there help me? What scares me is that I now notice that, that information was posted April 14, 2009 by SatinDoll. It seems somewhat dated. I have never heard any mention of it anywhere else.


TOPICS: Conspiracy
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To: humblegunner

Waaaaa ha ha ha ha ha!

Good one Hoss.


21 posted on 12/27/2010 6:00:49 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate Republicans Freed the Slaves Month)
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To: tumblindice

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22 posted on 12/27/2010 6:02:33 PM PST by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: jlfitz

As Freeoers, we have questions. You answer or you get none. It’s just that simple. Make your case or make tracks.


23 posted on 12/27/2010 6:02:49 PM PST by MestaMachine (islam - Hostis hvmani generis - Enemy of the human race)
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To: MHGinTN

Wowie! That is an oldie but goodie.


24 posted on 12/27/2010 6:05:12 PM PST by MestaMachine (islam - Hostis hvmani generis - Enemy of the human race)
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To: MestaMachine

Uhhhh
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25 posted on 12/27/2010 6:06:57 PM PST by MestaMachine (islam - Hostis hvmani generis - Enemy of the human race)
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To: jlfitz

Don’t take offense at some of the responses. Many here have lost patience over the years about certain topics. It would be very helpful to provide a link to the website you referenced. I was also looking for a copy of Maya’s COLB and no one here could provide info, nor could I find a copy on the internet.


26 posted on 12/27/2010 6:14:48 PM PST by meatloaf
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To: jlfitz; SatinDoll; lucysmom
Earlier this year SatinDoll wrote: "Many people born in Asia have or had COLBs; one such person was General Chiang Kai-shek, leader of the Nationalist Chinese, and definitely born in China."

to which lucysmom replied "Actually it was Sun Yat-sen."

General Chiang Kai-shek died in 1975, I believe. After that Madame Chiang Kai-shek lived in NYC and lived to 105, I read. Carter (who else?) turned his back on Taiwan and recognized Red China as THE China in 1979 I believe. I was born a little before W.W.II and I remember Gen. and Madame Chiang Kai-shek relatively well.

If a COLB was obtained for Sun Yat-sen, in that case what difference would it make if it was him or General Chiang Kai-shek vis-a-vis this issue; to wit, just like SatinDoll said "Many people born in Asia have or had COLBs."

27 posted on 12/27/2010 6:21:47 PM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: jlfitz

No, Maya does not have a Hawaii COLB. That’s just typical birther hogwash.

http://barackryphal.blogspot.com/2010/11/birther-mythbusting-maya-soetoros.html


28 posted on 12/27/2010 6:32:10 PM PST by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind.)
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To: DJ MacWoW

later,please


29 posted on 12/27/2010 6:33:33 PM PST by ArmyTeach (Our liberties we prize and our rights we will maintain ... Iowa 61)
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To: meatloaf

You couldn’t find it because it doesn’t exist.


30 posted on 12/27/2010 6:35:06 PM PST by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind.)
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To: jlfitz

Uhhhh...That would be Sun Yat Sen with the Hawaiian birth papers.


31 posted on 12/27/2010 6:43:09 PM PST by Tainan (Cogito, ergo conservatus - Domari Nolo)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

I think it does exist. And if his sister who definitely wasn’t born in the US has one it adds a bit more weight to the question of Obummer’s birth circumstances.


32 posted on 12/27/2010 6:48:44 PM PST by meatloaf
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To: meatloaf

That’s my problem with birthers. They think they know something when they don’t. See #28.


33 posted on 12/27/2010 6:56:40 PM PST by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind.)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

Thanks much for that link. I’m always interested in the truth no matter what.


34 posted on 12/27/2010 8:00:56 PM PST by meatloaf
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To: meatloaf

You’re welcome.


35 posted on 12/27/2010 8:26:44 PM PST by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind.)
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To: WilliamofCarmichael; jlfitz; SatinDoll
I was born a little before W.W.II and I remember Gen. and Madame Chiang Kai-shek relatively well.

Yes, I remember him too. He was a great admirer of Hitler.

If a COLB was obtained for Sun Yat-sen, in that case what difference would it make if it was him or General Chiang Kai-shek vis-a-vis this issue; to wit, just like SatinDoll said "Many people born in Asia have or had COLBs."

What Sun Yat-sen had was a "Certificate of Hawaiian Birth", acquired in 1904, 38 years after his birth, not a COLB (Certificate of Live Birth). Certificates of Hawaiian Birth are no longer issued.

A CoLB is only issued when the baby's Hawaiian birth is recorded within the first year of life, Obama's birth was recorded 4 days after the fact.

Had Obama been born outside the US, he would have gotten a Certificate of Foreign Birth. So, SatinDoll says Chiang Kai-shek had a COLB issued by the state of Hawaii, only it was Sun Yat-sen and he was issued was a Certificate of Hawaiian Birth. How many facts does one have to get wrong before you think it makes a difference?

36 posted on 12/27/2010 10:15:33 PM PST by lucysmom (Trolling since 2001.)
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To: jlfitz
I don't know about the two you mentioned, but, I was able to Google Bowbama's birth certificate and this is what I found:


37 posted on 12/28/2010 6:41:38 AM PST by Road Warrior ‘04 (I miss President Bush greatly! Palin in 2012! 2012 - The End Of An Error! (Oathkeeper))
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To: lucysmom; jlfitz
Thank you, lucysmom, for the explanation about Sun Yat-sen's territorial Certificate of Hawaiian Birth issued in 1904; that helps clarify the misunderstanding about it vs. a modern day state of Hawaii COLB.. but,

though the several sources for the 1904 date exist there are official Hawaii state sources that state "The Certificate of Hawaiian Birth program was established in 1911, during the territorial era, to register a person born in Hawaii who was one year old or older and whose birth had not been previously registered in Hawaii. The Certificate of Hawaiian Birth Program was terminated in 1972, during the statehood era."

This apparent date conflict has likely been explained elsewhere. I am merely noting it. I will research it myself because you've already asked "How many facts does one have to get wrong before you think it makes a difference?" That's enough contumely for one day. :)

38 posted on 12/28/2010 8:18:07 AM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: jlfitz

My left ankle itches.


39 posted on 12/28/2010 12:10:53 PM PST by Allegra (I painted red and green stripes on my biceps.)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

That source does not agree with my presumptions.

Therefore it is wrong.


40 posted on 12/28/2010 1:04:17 PM PST by El Sordo (The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen.)
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