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Nail the bastards to a wall !
A message to FR and US conservatives

Posted on 12/20/2010 3:18:26 PM PST by se_ohio_young_conservative

This is a reminder of where RINO'ism is getting us. This is a reminder that just because a Republican wins an election, that doesn't mean that we win a single thing.

Late last night the United States Senate passed the food safety bill. A bill that restricts our freedoms to grow and sell our own. Republican support in the senate 100%

Today today US Senator Scott Brown said yes to the START treaty which is a bill that even the most radical 1960's pinko hippy would have never dreamed as being really possible in their lifetime.

I would like to remind you that Scott Brown won the election in MA with full backing from the Republican establishment. I would also like to remind you that the same GOP establishment did everything they could to undermine Christine O'Donnell in the DE senate race.

Scott Brown won. What the hell did we gain ? NOTHING. What would we have gained if Mike Castle had won the Delaware race ? What would we have gained ? NOTHING. Castle and Brown are equals. Liberals ! Do you get it now ? Do you ? Good.

Now let us remember this and learn from this. If we have a country left to fight for in 2012. When Republican people say any of our Conservatives are unelectable, spit on them. Nail them to the wall. This is no longer a shell game. We have to be bold and we have to breath fire. We have to save our country if we still can.

I would rather die on my feet than live on my knees. We need to stop feeling sorry for ourselves and stop with the defeatism. Dammit, if we are going to go down we are going to go down fighting for what we believe right down to the last breath we take so help us God. Please remember who we are and why we are here.

Hope exists until we stop fighting. And I don't know about you. But I will never give up ! What do you say ?


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To: r9etb

We didn’t win anything.

When I say learn from history. That is a message to every GOP voter in every state to get involved in their area and pick CONSERVATIVE candidates in the primary. That is the lesson to learn here. So are there are no Scott Browns in the future.


21 posted on 12/20/2010 3:38:31 PM PST by se_ohio_young_conservative (Palin or 3rd party... no exceptions !)
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative

After his vote on DADT, I’ve been wondering what “Downtown Scotty Brown” did while he was downtown.


22 posted on 12/20/2010 3:38:33 PM PST by matt1234 (0bama's bunker phase: Nov. 2010 - Jan. 2013)
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative

You will get it when you stop putting your faith in party politics.

We have yet to realize that we have gone beyond the normal election cycles to restore the country. We won’t be able to fix this in the normal fashion. The global government is planning on winning. They do it in the same way a party controls Congress.

We have a problem and it is bigger than Scott Brown or Lindsay Graham. It is even bigger than the US “government”


23 posted on 12/20/2010 3:41:37 PM PST by dforest
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To: bigbob

I’m done with Rinos too!

2012 will make or break the republican party for all time, enough already for those who line their nests at the cost of us who pay the GD bills.

My grandbabies are having to go without this year because the smarmmy pricks in DC just don’t have the courage to do whats right!

Next year is going to be the hardest year I’ve ever felt in my 53 years here on earth.


24 posted on 12/20/2010 3:42:29 PM PST by Randy Larsen ( BTW, If I offend you! Please let me know, I may want to offend you again!(FR #1690))
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To: indylindy

Then what else do we do ? Roll over ?


25 posted on 12/20/2010 3:42:46 PM PST by se_ohio_young_conservative (Palin or 3rd party... no exceptions !)
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative

That is the big question. What do we do? There are answers that I don’t wish to think about and may not ever have a chance.

Just believe.


26 posted on 12/20/2010 3:46:32 PM PST by dforest
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To: indylindy

shallow answer. the answer is leadership. The last time our country was truly falling apart we had leaders like Abraham Lincoln.

I will believe while I personally do my part to help make sure every Republican candidate in the United States is a conservative


27 posted on 12/20/2010 3:49:22 PM PST by se_ohio_young_conservative (Palin or 3rd party... no exceptions !)
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To: raybbr

“Just curious. Who did you publicly back? Brown or Coakley in the election?”

I backed Brown and I’m living to regret it. I was there at the MA GOP State Committee meeting the they trotted out Andy Card to be the candidate to run for the open seat. Standing right behind him was Brown. Card made this speech about how he had to check with his wife to see if it would be OK to run. But, if he couldn’t run (as he turns and brings up Brown) he wanted everybody to support Brown.
In hindsight, this was theater, the plan was for Brown to run all along.
Yeah, I got caught up in it. Anybody was going to be better that Coakley and here was a chance to stick it to the Dem’s.
As it turns out we (and I include myself) projected conservative results from this guy. I did the same thing that Obama’s base did to him. Quite frankly, I refused to see the forest from the trees. Brown has an R after his name, a true rarity in MA. Because of this One degree to the right in MA qualifies as “conservative.” I fell for it. A lot of us fell for it.
But I’ve been calling that SOB’s office every day and telling the answering machine in no uncertain terms that my financial and political support is done.
I don’t know how much good it will do, but I’ve done it.
AND if the MA GOP doesn’t change its leadership; I’m done.
If I wanted to vote for a liberal democrat all I have to do is look at 99% of any ballot at any election for any office. I want a choice; a real choice and with the MA GOP I’m not getting it.
Scottie, if you’re monitoring this, enjoy your time in Washington because you’re going to be the answer to a trivia question in about a year and a half.


28 posted on 12/20/2010 3:50:41 PM PST by Stormdog (A rifle transforms one from subject to Citizen)
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative

Join us over here. We have a plan.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2645113/posts


29 posted on 12/20/2010 3:55:02 PM PST by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind.)
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative

Left-wing progressive loonies loot, riot and cause mayhem,

Ring-wing conservative (by the thousands) storm the Capitol, regaining control


30 posted on 12/20/2010 3:55:09 PM PST by Java4Jay
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative

Here is a repeat of a post I made on a different thread.... You can fill in a different name for Brown and a different State for Massachusetts and hopefully still understand the concept.


I agree that if we want to change the person holding this seat, the Primary of 2012 is the time to do it.

With that said, I don’t think anyone much further right of Brown has much of a chance in the General Election of 2012 in Massachusetts.

If Scott Brown wins the 2012 Primary, I would hope that he would be supported (even if it is only a plugged nose vote) in the General Election, otherwise, how do we ever expect to have our much more conservative Senators in committee chair positions. Sure, I would like all the GOP office holders to be 100% conservative, but again, if we want to really drive the agenda in the Senate we need the majority and if “we” “lose” in the Primaries, the prudent thing to do is get as many GOPers in office to gain a majority. Not a hard concept.


31 posted on 12/20/2010 3:58:55 PM PST by copaliscrossing (Progressives are Socialists)
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative

Time to dismantle to federal government, go back to the constitution and start over again. Our federal government is now the enemy. Elections will no longer decide which “path” our country goes down. The “path” has already been chosen and we are on our way, like it or not.

It’s our choice to either do as we’re told or start doing the telling, and the ballot box no longer holds the answer, IMO.


32 posted on 12/20/2010 4:00:09 PM PST by Pox (Good Night. I expect more respect tomorrow.)
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To: copaliscrossing

The only part I care to read is your tag-line

“Progressives are socialists”

then why in the heck would you vote for or support one of them ?


33 posted on 12/20/2010 4:01:50 PM PST by se_ohio_young_conservative (Palin or 3rd party... no exceptions !)
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative
I like the fire...lets build on it. I'm ready for something drastic. Big statements need to be made.

I gave Scott Brown money just to see him win Kennedy's seat. I knew what I was buying. Now lets find a real conservative to replace him.

34 posted on 12/20/2010 4:02:46 PM PST by BreezyDog
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To: bigbob

Easy answer. The Reps will NOT be the conservative standard bearers as a party. Take that to the bank.


35 posted on 12/20/2010 4:06:04 PM PST by mad_as_he$$ (V for Vendetta.)
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To: Stormdog

Well, don’t kick yourself too hard, I’m in IL and we had the same choice in the last Senate election (the one for “The Obama Seat” if you listen to the lamestram). We could either vote for Alexi Gianoulias, a know crook with strong ties to Obama, Rezko, Blago and all the rest - and obviously, a Democrat who would have become Dick Durbin’s personal butt-boy...

OR we could vote for Mark Kirk. A pro-Gay, pro-Abortion, anti-Gun, RINO who tends to be fiscally conservative at least half the time.

What a pair of lousy choices!!!

So we held our noses and voted for the guy would would be wrong 60% of the time rather than the one who would be wrong 100% of the time. I think your choice between Scott Brown and Coakley were about the same.

The moral of the story is obvious: We need to build a strong “farm system” to identify and promote and support smart, energetic, young conservatives who can run for these offices in the future. I don’t see any priority that is higher...because if we continue to let the Elites decide who’s “turn it is” we only have ourselves to blame.


36 posted on 12/20/2010 4:06:10 PM PST by bigbob (.)
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To: jimbo123

Nice but I thought Barak rode side-saddle!


37 posted on 12/20/2010 4:09:43 PM PST by sjmjax (Politicans are like bananas - they start green, turn yellow, then rot.)
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To: bigbob

“The moral of the story is obvious: We need to build a strong “farm system” to identify and promote and support smart, energetic, young conservatives who can run for these offices in the future. I don’t see any priority that is higher...because if we continue to let the Elites decide who’s “turn it is” we only have ourselves to blame.”

Thanks, Bob. You’re absolutely right.


38 posted on 12/20/2010 4:17:19 PM PST by Stormdog (A rifle transforms one from subject to Citizen)
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative
The only part I care to read is your tag-line

“Progressives are socialists”

then why in the heck would you vote for or support one of them ?


If you would have read my whole post, the answer is right there in front of your eyes. It is the majority in the Senate that I want, however, if you are comfortable working from the minority position then not voting for a (R) in the General Election is what you should do.

My only point is to work like hell in the Primary and if you win....GREAT...however, if you lose, change focus to obtaining the majority.

This whole line of thinking reminds me of my own disruptive "rants" on DU when I call the libs to task for tolerating a moderate Democrat. I'm not accusing anyone here but that's what some of this "piling on" sounds like. To a liberal DU'er a fractured GOP is the kind of GOP they like.
39 posted on 12/20/2010 4:19:26 PM PST by copaliscrossing (Progressives are Socialists)
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative
When I say learn from history. That is a message to every GOP voter in every state to get involved in their area and pick CONSERVATIVE candidates in the primary. That is the lesson to learn here. So are there are no Scott Browns in the future.

Are you interested in winning elections?

The question sounds snarky, but it's not.

Shouting about CONSERVATIVE candidates is fine for places like, say, Wyoming. But where are you going to find your perfect electable candidate in a place like MA?

And, no matter how much you shout, you're always gonna end up with some Scott Browns in Congress. Are you simply going to shun them?

40 posted on 12/20/2010 4:21:05 PM PST by r9etb
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