With all due respect, RL, the leftist traitors in this country will continue to strip away our freedoms and liberties like peeling an onion, until one day, we are utterly and completely enslaved. That is, unless we find it within ourselves to fight back with sufficient force to stop them.
Witness what the lame duck Democrat congress is doing this very minute. They know that they have been fired by the American people, so they're doing everything in their power to circumvent the will of The People by passing a raft of treasonous legislation in the twilight hours of their term. The results of the November elections were an historic repudiation of their party and their agenda, yet even that has done nothing to slow them down.
When you're dealing with tyrants of this sort, you must use a degree of opposing force, equal to, or greater than the force they're exerting against the people. Obviously, this isn't being done, because the onslaught against us continues unabated.
So, how much force is necessary to stop them in their tracks? I don't know, but it's definitely more than the level of opposition they're seeing now.
Our forefathers had to cross a Rubicon in their time. They, too, suffered under a tyrannical and diabolical regime. Came a point where they had exhausted all civil means of addressing their oppressors, and were forced to take it to the next and final level, in order to affect true redress of their grievances.
It's my opinion that we passed a similar point a long time ago, but our people have been so conditioned to obey authority, and to even fear their own government, that their natural inclination to respond to tyranny in the most moral, instinctive, and justified way, has been atrophied into inaction.
Apparently, we're now at a point in history where we nearly need to see the Redcoats looting and burning our towns to pull the flintlock down from the mantle.
That said, the American people do have a breaking point. My perception is that the ruling class is applying about 95% of the required pressure to unleash a real rebellion.
I wouldn't worry too much about the left attempting to lay blame on the patriotic right for initiating a break out of real hostilities. If it comes to that, they're going to lose - and lose badly. I doubt they'll be in any position to go around pointing fingers after the dust settles.
I respect you, as well, Windflier and I agree with most of your post. Points well taken. However, the rebellion this time will either make use of the ballot box and reaffirm our Constitutional basis or I see us being crushed by the combined power of a military that will mostly follow the chain of command (only officers are pledged to the Constitution and some of them will interpret their duty to be loyal to to the CinC) and local law enforcement, if we advance to the ammunition box. They can and will designate any armed rebellion as domestic terrorism.
I do not see much success in store for small groups of armed patriots against Leviathan. Enough of our populace will recoil from violence that such actions will fracture our side and destroy our present moral and legal high ground.
Look how far they have gotten with us still in full possession of our arms. They haven’t yet had to fire a shot. They are keeping their powder dry.
I lived under martial law in Milwaukee in 1968. The NG moved in overnight and we awoke to the reality of US troops in control of the streets and intersections, with no real warning. I saw young American soldiers from the National Guard manning machine guns mounted on trucks filled with another 4-6 armed soldiers, circling our block for several days. I experienced the polite checkpoints and watched people comply with the restrictions on movement and the need to present ID to go to work or to a grocery store. We were warned to exit our homes slowly, carrying nothing and we did. That was over fear of a race riot over a manufactured *Fair Housing* issue. It only lasted a few days. None of us had any doubts at all that the armed soldiers would shoot as warned. It _did_ result in most of the residents of our mixed-race, working class neighborhood coming closer together. Would that happen this time, or would the zerO-supporters and “let’s all get along” Republicans turn on their conservative neighbors and join forces with the regime? I don’t want to put that to the test because the resulting fractioning would harden and become permanent, as well as very mean and vindictive. Those two traits are already evident. There would be little media outcry for our rights and much rejoicing if we were arrested, put through show trials, imprisoned, fined into penury or shot. No ACLU for conservatives, IMO. They could and would suspend the 4th Amendment as quickly as they could, with the support of the majority of Americans.
The pressures being placed on us all at this point are intentional. They want us to react violently so that they can put us down, physically and politically. The hard leftists I used to know are not wusses. The real revolutionaries chomp at the bit to take out what they characterize as *reactionaries*. They are as well-armed as we are and, you remember:”Those are our fighter planes [troops/riot control cops], now.”
It is a trap.
It will take more strength to regain our nation peacefully and defeat them politically than to give in to frustration with anger and short-lived, futile violence. This isn’t 1773 and we are not physically hardened pioneers fighting an overly-regulated ground force using out-dated tactics. We are soft, modern, civilized people being crushed inside a police state that has modern technological capabilities that control our communications and can track our movements. They can instantly make it impossible for us to work or conduct any financial transaction. They have the power of sanction in so many areas of our lives that it will probably not even come down to more than isolated and sporadic incidents of disruption, on our part.
I do not like the present odds, if it comes down to armed resistance. That is such a final option that, IMO, it is wiser to continue to work within the system until and unless they make it clear that they will not even allow us that. And at that point, we will all need to pray very hard, because modern history does not show that we stand much of a chance in that event.
I respect you, as well, Windflier and I agree with most of your post. Points well taken. However, the rebellion this time will either make use of the ballot box and reaffirm our Constitutional basis or I see us being crushed by the combined power of a military that will mostly follow the chain of command (only officers are pledged to the Constitution and some of them will interpret their duty to be loyal to to the CinC) and local law enforcement, if we advance to the ammunition box. They can and will designate any armed rebellion as domestic terrorism.
I do not see much success in store for small groups of armed patriots against Leviathan. Enough of our populace will recoil from violence that such actions will fracture our side and destroy our present moral and legal high ground.
Look how far they have gotten with us still in full possession of our arms. They haven’t yet had to fire a shot. They are keeping their powder dry.
I lived under martial law in Milwaukee in 1968. The NG moved in overnight and we awoke to the reality of US troops in control of the streets and intersections, with no real warning. I saw young American soldiers from the National Guard manning machine guns mounted on trucks filled with another 4-6 armed soldiers, circling our block for several days. I experienced the polite checkpoints and watched people comply with the restrictions on movement and the need to present ID to go to work or to a grocery store. We were warned to exit our homes slowly, carrying nothing and we did. That was over fear of a race riot over a manufactured *Fair Housing* issue. It only lasted a few days. None of us had any doubts at all that the armed soldiers would shoot as warned. It _did_ result in most of the residents of our mixed-race, working class neighborhood coming closer together. Would that happen this time, or would the zerO-supporters and “let’s all get along” Republicans turn on their conservative neighbors and join forces with the regime? I don’t want to put that to the test because the resulting fractioning would harden and become permanent, as well as very mean and vindictive. Those two traits are already evident. There would be little media outcry for our rights and much rejoicing if we were arrested, put through show trials, imprisoned, fined into penury or shot. No ACLU for conservatives, IMO. They could and would suspend the 4th Amendment as quickly as they could, with the support of the majority of Americans.
The pressures being placed on us all at this point are intentional. They want us to react violently so that they can put us down, physically and politically. The hard leftists I used to know are not wusses. The real revolutionaries chomp at the bit to take out what they characterize as *reactionaries*. They are as well-armed as we are and, you remember:”Those are our fighter planes [troops/riot control cops], now.”
It is a trap.
It will take more strength to regain our nation peacefully and defeat them politically than to give in to frustration with anger and short-lived, futile violence. This isn’t 1773 and we are not physically hardened pioneers fighting an overly-regulated ground force using out-dated tactics. We are soft, modern, civilized people being crushed inside a police state that has modern technological capabilities that control our communications and can track our movements. They can instantly make it impossible for us to work or conduct any financial transaction. They have the power of sanction in so many areas of our lives that it will probably not even come down to more than isolated and sporadic incidents of disruption, on our part.
I do not like the present odds, if it comes down to armed resistance. That is such a final option that, IMO, it is wiser to continue to work within the system until and unless they make it clear that they will not even allow us that. And at that point, we will all need to pray very hard, because modern history does not show that we stand much of a chance in that event.